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Lemmy is populated by far left Americans who were banned from Reddit for extremism. Strict ideological conformity is required or youโ€™ll get actual death threats. Donโ€™t go there unless you want violent communist revolution and hate discussing interesting ideas.

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[โ€“] Rhaedas@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I always thought I was liberal. Why am I here? Maybe the labels have shifted around and I've held on to the same ideas?

I just find it weird when people group liberal and conservative in the same bucket. Labels are about as dangerous as parties, they muddy the discussion.

[โ€“] Telorand@reddthat.com 17 points 1 day ago

"Liberal" is not a useful word, imo. It means different things to different people. Hexbear users define it in the sense of neoliberalism, a historically right position. To many it means "progressive." To others, it means "somewhere on the left, and I don't care to put myself into a particular box."

If we'd quit shitting on people who call themselves "liberal," we might actually have a more cohesive coalition, rather than rejecting anyone for the tiniest perceived infraction, real or imagined.

[โ€“] MBech@feddit.dk 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the problem with US politics is that liberal is by party design, grouped with the socialists too. Here in northern Europe, the liberal parties are usually considered our right to far-right parties, while conservatives are a bit more centrist and often without any influence.

[โ€“] Rhaedas@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That actually helps, at least with your post. All the more why I hate labels, when they totally flip around depending on the perspective of the person using them. This isn't just a US/Europe thing, it's true of history too. Hence the "Party of Lincoln" trope that Republicans like to wave around, ignoring that the party names shifted and flipped over time.

Socialists and other US extreme left ideas merge in with the Democrats because when they first materialized as political movements and a third party, thanks to our political system they either had to die out or pick a side to stay alive.

[โ€“] MBech@feddit.dk 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agreed, I mean absolutely no disrespect.

[โ€“] Rhaedas@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

None taken or meant either. I just see it a lot, and I guess this morning it triggered a response. :D

I don't know what to call myself, I just know what ideas and values I believe in, and the ones I hate.