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Woke up to my computer being updated to W11 from W10, not too happy about that. I want to use massgrave to change my window to W10 LTSC.

I am not interested in Linux.

So, I went to massgrave.dev and did the script, hit 1, etc. It just say something about permanent changed to key or whatever.

So I went download W10 LTSC iso, hit setup.exe and it asked me for product key. I entered my key, say it's not right one.

So could somebody run me step by step how to go about it? I'm not really tech savvy. I want literal step by step, telling me exactly what to do.

Thank you.

Edit: folks didn't really provide step by step here. But I managed to do it. I activiated script via powershell and hit change edition, changed it to LTSC. And then I downloaded window 10 consumer version from massgrave and run setup.exe and done. You might have to do first step shown in first part of massgrave.dev.

So my pc went from w10 to w11 (woyhouy my approval) to w11 LTSC, to w10 IoT enterprise. I'm good now.

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[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 49 points 3 weeks ago (19 children)

I am not interested in Linux.

[–] GiraffeNeckInKnot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Pretty much, everyone praise Linux here. I tried few favors of Linux, could never get into it. They say you have total control over it and yet I struggled with terminal blocking me from doing anything unless I run right commands and stuff like that. Looking for hidden files and all. I just gave up. Windows is just too convenient for me.

[–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I struggled with terminal blocking me from doing anything unless I run right commands

Lmao are you serious? Did you struggle with it not opening the right applications unless you click the right icons as well?

[–] Paula_Tejando@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dude, don’t make fun. They’re not belittling the system or its users, they’re admitting they struggled with it. I wish all criticism of Linux was like that. People have the right to their choices and preferences.

[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Struggling with commands is absolutely fine and is expected for majority of the users including some veterans trying something new. But the joke here is specifically "They say you have total control over it and yet"... Then proceeds to say writing the wrong command doesn't let you do what you want. I don't understand why you would be writing in commands on your own when you don't even understand how to use it. Just follow a blog post on how to do X or you post a question for help with said commands. Saying telling the computer to do something else resulted in something else being performed and complaining you don't have control over it is just plain stupidity.

[–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

Precisely this.

The user is free to use whatever they want but I’m quite sure windows won’t read their mind either so that argument (if you dare to call it that) is pretty much weightless.

[–] PopeRigby 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

How do you expect to do anything in the terminal if you're not typing the right commands? Things tend to not work when you do them wrong...

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sudo make me a sandwich

Sudo make me a sandwich please

[–] Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

--please, -please, please, -p, -P, man sudo, man make 🤔 I'll find the flag eventually!

Exactly, fuck terminals.

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah Lemmy is very Linux oriented :). Though I do agree Linux is harder to get into but that's not because GNU/Linux is difficult, it's because we were so much accustomed to how Windows work !

I don't really remember because it has been ages, but I'm sure my first steps with Windows 98 where awful and not easy and intuitive at all !

Linux has a lot of issues so does Windows (and MacOS) and learning a whole new paradigm of a working system takes time and some investement, but after you get the basic gists, Linux gives you total control of everything ! (Like to see hidden directories is like Windows, just a check box to show hidden files :) don't need a CLI for that)

You rarely need the use of the Terminal when on easier distributions like PopOS or Ubuntu (while I wouldn't suggest the later), However if you tried more difficult distribution first (like arch and derivatives), CLI is mandatory !

Not saying YOU should switch, do whatever makes you happy, more productive and vibes with your current needs/feeling...

However, If you feel the need to switch the Linux community will always welcome you :) Keep in mind, there are good people and a**holes everywhere !

Glad you solved your issue with massgrave, which is a great tool :) ! Have fun with your system !

Edit: Sorry for the off topic XD discussion got a bit heated up haha ! I'm kinda surprised it didn't got deleted !

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

They say you have total control over it

You do.

yet I struggled with terminal blocking me from doing anything unless I run right commands

I mean, would you prefer the terminal simply guess at what you're trying to do and execute random commands?

Looking for hidden files and all.

[xanza@dev ~]$ ll
total 76
drwxr-sr-x   11 xanza    xanza         4096 Mar 15 02:05 ./
drwxr-xr-x    4 root     root          4096 Mar 10 22:16 ../
-rw-------    1 xanza    xanza         8677 Mar 15 02:05 .bash_history
-rw-r--r--    1 xanza    xanza          887 Mar 13 19:26 .bashrc
drwxr-sr-x    5 xanza    xanza         4096 Mar 12 22:37 .cache/
-rw-r--r--    1 xanza    xanza          484 Mar 15 01:38 .caddy
drwxr-sr-x    9 xanza    xanza         4096 Mar 12 22:32 .config/
drwx--S---    3 xanza    xanza         4096 Mar 11 21:23 .docker/
-rw-r--r--    1 xanza    xanza           52 Mar 10 23:13 .gitconfig
drwxr-sr-x    3 xanza    xanza         4096 Mar 10 23:05 .go/
drwxr-sr-x    6 xanza    xanza         4096 Mar 12 18:47 .local/
-rw-r--r--    1 xanza    xanza           49 Mar 10 23:41 .profile
drwxr-sr-x    2 xanza    xanza         4096 Mar 10 22:38 .sockets/
drwxr-sr-x    2 xanza    xanza         4096 Mar 10 22:27 .ssh/
drwxr-sr-x    3 xanza    xanza         4096 Mar 15 01:20 .vim/
drwxr-sr-x    4 xanza    xanza         4096 Mar 10 23:08 go/
-rw-r--r--    1 xanza    xanza          267 Mar 12 18:31 justfile

Hidden files in *nix are dotfiles; files which are literally hidden from view because they're appended with a ..

[–] Scary_le_Poo 5 points 3 weeks ago

The gracefulness of how the point flew right over your head was breathtaking

[–] GiraffeNeckInKnot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's an exceedingly poor attitude. How do you expect to learn anything in life, let alone something you seem to want to learn with that attitude?

[–] GiraffeNeckInKnot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't expect to learn Linux.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't expect you will either.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

terminal blocking me from doing anything unless I run right commands

yea

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