Asking after the privacy debacle and manifest. I'm not keeping up closely, but iirc Firefox is the browser recommended because of Ublock. After the privacy data issue I've noticed broken trust from Firefox users, recommendations in favor of switching browsers, and predictions saying Firefox is going downhill fast and that their forks won't be maintained for much longer.

So I'm here asking the seasoned sailors' thoughts, aye. Is this just a storm passing by or are you really considering jumping ship?

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[–] thisismyname@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem is not laziness, that's what a nerd whose hobby is computers would do. The average person is not searching for videos to learn how to toggle the settings of their web browser, ffs. Firefox should be secure by default.

[–] Ilandar@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In that case your entire argument for LibreWolf is a complete waste of time, because this theoretical user you're referring to also wouldn't bother to download an unknown niche privacy browser. LibreWolf is essentially just hardened Firefox for people who are too lazy to do it themselves. The crossover between completely tech illiterate but also privacy-focused is an insanely small market.

[–] thisismyname@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, I see, you're a contrarian who just wants an argument. That's not really my bag so this will be my last message.

Yes, the likelihood of the average person downloading Librewolf is slim. Using or not using Librewolf doesn't make someone lazy. Not reading and toggling every setting in Firefox doesn't make someone lazy either.

You've just explained that to make Firefox secure you need to watch some video of someone that you hope knows what they're talking about. What if they miss something? What if they're talking shit? I know, shocking, people lying on the internet, but it happens.

Firefox is a big name browser used by many people of varying backgrounds and technical ability. It should be secure by default. It is not. Librewolf I recommended to anyone reading this thread, which is probably someone tech savvy enough to try a different browser. But not all people are that tech savvy.

The root issue is Firefox not being secure by default. If there was no profit motive for Mozilla it likely would be.

[–] Ilandar@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

You’ve just explained that to make Firefox secure you need to watch some video of someone that you hope knows what they’re talking about.

No actually, I didn't. I suggested that anyone who is not confident/literate enough to work this out for themselves through self-research online can access extremely beginner-friendly guides on YouTube that step-by-step walk them through the setup. Everyone knows how to use YouTube, please don't insult my intelligence by implying it's some kind of semi-mythical resource known only to the the biggest "nerds".