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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This post is arguing that we should not allow people to fucking quote: "freely worship their god" to prevent being sent to an internment camp, and you incels are eating it up.

[–] sergio@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

how does this have anything to do with incels?

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

brah don't you know, it's not hateful if it is a joke and i was only joking brah

braaaaah it's just a joke and jokes doesn't mean anything lighten up braaaaaah

[–] sergio@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You lifted one word out of my comment and focused on that single word that had nothing to do with the actual point so you could avoid any acknowledging the criticism. I'm not playing your stupid games. I don't accept for a moment you're engaging in good faith, sorry.

If you don't want to talk about why this was a shitty, hateful thing to post, nobody is forcing you to talk to me, buddy. Just go on with your life and try no to hurt anyone else.

[–] sergio@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I'd be more willing to engage with criticism if you didn't use words that don't make sense in this context, leading me to believe you don't know what you're talking about.

It's not shitty or hateful, your anger is the intended outcome; this is a satirical edit of a Christian hate-meme to display how hateful it is when applied to Christians

[–] airportline@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is it? I mean it clearly references it, but unless I'm not getting something, that's a hateful meme slurring transgenderism, and this is a hateful meme slurring religion. If either of them are intended ironically, they're cutting pretty damn close to the Poe line. I'm not seeing any parody.

[–] Smk@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I'm concerned, it's pretty funny! I understand some people may take this seriously and that's sad.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't say anything about whether or not it is funny. Do you have any comment on whether or not it is hateful?

[–] Smk@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, it's not hateful unless you think it is.

To me, that's funny. I understand that some people can take this seriously and come to think that what the meme is saying is actually happening which may bring more harm than good.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not hateful unless I think it is. What might you mean by that rhetorical gem. Are you trying to argue that there is no such thing as objective hate? That I can just choose not to find hate speech hateful, and that fixes everything?

[–] Smk@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For some people it's offensive, for others it's not. At this point, it is subjective. If everyone thinks it's offensive, then it is otherwise, it depends on each individual.

I don't think it's that controversial.

I'm not arguing anything, I'm talking about that specific meme, not about hate speech in general. I'm not sure what you are trying to say either :/

What I'm saying is that there is a fine line between funny and hateful. For some people this kind of meme is funny, for others, it's hateful.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Smk@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Agree to disagree then.