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Which browser do you use and why? (lemmy.selfhostcat.com)
submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com to c/linux@lemmy.ml
 

Using firefox but concerned now

Read about some alternatives:

Edit 2/28: It seems there is no general consensus if we should switch and/or to what.

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I use Firefox. I don't like the changes but I don't want to use any downstream browsers and I don't think any of the not-downstream alternatives do better.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They are better in most of the case, Firefox only is not that good...

[–] commander@lemmings.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe it's just me, but I can't really see how they can be better beyond philosophical reasons.

I guess bringing back stuff like the proper dropdown menu we had in the 2000s would be an example, but I don't expect most of them to do something like that.

I expect most of them to have some kind of gimmick that isn't relevant to how I use a web browser.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Privacy, simply better, better anti-fingerprinting. Sure you can do it with stock Firefox but it's just simpler to have a pre-hardened browser

[–] commander@lemmings.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What privacy and fingerprinting concerns are there with Firefox?

simply better

Lol. That's not a reason, ya goof.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Explore the Arkenfox user.js and you'll see all things that can be improved in Firefox

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I just don't care for downstream projects on browsers, with software so critical I want to get the updates in as fast as possible. I know some of those mentioned in OP had issues with that in the past. And not much reason to anyway for me to switch, Firefox works perfectly fine for me, so there's not much added benefit.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Understand your point of view but in fact the 2 problems you mentioned are mainly not problems :

1 - Updates? The main downstream browsers received updates the same time as Firefox the same day and sometime the same hour

2 - Benefits? The benefits are mainly under the hood, removing Mozilla telemetry and annoying features (account, pocket...) AND the biggest advantages are the gain in term of privacy due the increase of anti fingerprinting methods

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Updates? The main downstream browsers received updates the same time as Firefox the same day and sometime the same hour

I'm not sure if something has changed, but due to changes they've made, at least before they couldn't ship out the updates until they made it so that the updates actually affect their changed codebase. Which understandably causes delays. So there'd always be this delay with something being fixed on Firefox and then being fixed on the downstream projects.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Surely there will be some delay but not that much, for most updates the fixes are transplanted directly to the downstream project making the patches coming very fast, almost as fast as the original project

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've just soured on them from when there has been issues. Some security patches took a while because of the changed codebase. Good if that doesn't happen anymore though.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Should retry it and make your own decision

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm confused. I've already made my decision when I used them before and it doesn't seem like the main thing (them being just downstream of Firefox) has changed? Like said, I don't see the benefits being big enough to warrant a switch.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If it's not for me then you are free to stay with stock firefox