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Hi everyone, I use Linux on all my machines since a decade. Unfortunately my laptops are getting older and I will probably have to change them soon. Which Laptops would you recommend me to buy in 2025 a part Librem?

I don't have a high budget but I'm still looking for something relatively recent. I looked on H-node but it seems that there are not a lot of recent things.

I use Debian as a distro.

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[–] gbin@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Try Framework.

You'll get a laptop sized to your budget and you'll be able to grow with it, upgrade any part your budget will allow in the future.

Their linux support is excellent.

[–] modcolocko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

not to be a downer but you could very likely buy a higher performing laptop than even the top framework laptop for less money than even a minimal build

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, but that's not the point of framework

[–] modcolocko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

commenter was suggesting that framework allows you to “grow with your budget”

i don’t think this is exactly true in most situations

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes but in the future when you need or want to upgrade again, it's a fairly trivial cost because you're reusing 90% of the parts. It's an investment.

Not to mention if there's any kind of mechanical issue in the future.

[–] modcolocko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

not rlly wanting to reply to everyone but framework mainboards are price comparable to equivalent entire laptops

i literally want a framework laptop, but selling it to people as a good way to save money isn’t really viable in my opinion

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago

framework mainboards are price comparable to equivalent entire laptops

No.

That's cool. Performance per dollar isn't the only factor for a laptop.

Size

Weight

Durability

Battery life

I/O and other features.

A not dogshit network card

An actually usuable trackpad

I'm sure I could list more. But those are all things that are important on a laptop and you can't change after you buy it.

[–] scrooge101@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

You can also buy it second hand or get an older version for less money and upgrade later.

The upgradability and reparability is also a cost saving factor on the longer run. I broke the screen once and instead of buying a new laptop or have a costly repair, I just got a replacement for 200 bucks and fixed it easily myself.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, Framework!

It's great, works perfectly, and you support something (principals, ways) worth supporting!
Something what won't lead to/support further enshitification of all the things.
(And we might even get usable RISC–V laptops fairly soon - to even further ditch megacorps.)

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Framework laptops are not great actually. They basically are offloading their qa/qc onto customers. They routinely ship defective units new out of the box and try to make you do all their engineering work for them.

The quality of the components is meh at best. If I were doing it again, I would go the ThinkPad route.

Framework is a bunch of VC funded shills who see the right to repair movement as a resource they can exploit.

[–] WbrJr@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

My friends had about the same amount oft issues with their thinkpad as me with the fw.

I agree, that there are many issues, but you don't notice them in daily use.

The support is very good with most people, I seem to have bad luck, but once I got someone helpful, it got solved super quick.

I still recommend fw. I wish they would redo the fw13 and improve upon all the little issues everyone had, but mine still goes strong and I hope it will for many years to come