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[–] Ganbat@lemmynsfw.com 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've been doing a lot of reading about DDG since this dropped and ad blocking, a major privacy factor, was not included, and simply, I don't trust DDG anymore. If they were willing to disregard user privacy once, chances are they'll do it again. Hell, I'd bet they already are.

[–] Cube6392 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Duck Duck Go has been doomed to be subservient to Microsoft's whims ever since Google blocked them from aggregating search results from Google's index. Now the only way to run a private search engine is to use a private index like Xng or Metager. Of those, I'd rexommens Xng

[–] JickleMithers@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I've had a private SearXNG instance for about a year. Never going back, if you want no ads and to not be tracked by your searches it's the way to go. I host it on a cloud server to further remove myself from being tracked via IP. It's pretty easy to spin one up and I highly recommend it.

Here's what my page looks like when I search

[–] karbon@feddit.dk 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But is a private instance really that private? Because all your searches must be bundled together and perhaps some of those searches include personal data. I am asking as it is something I have genuinely thought about for some time

[–] JickleMithers@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Every time it makes a query to one of the selected search engines it does it as a "new user" so there's no history for it to track.

edit: that's also why I host it on a cloud server, just to add that extra layer. Not to say someone determined couldn't figure out who I am but it stops the passive layers of trying to track.

[–] On@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your server might query search engines with a clean slate, but the search engine has its own history for your cloud server's IP address. Cookies aren't the only thing big tech use to track users.

or do you use multiple IP addresses?

[–] JickleMithers@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have it set to dynamic IP so it changes

[–] beepnoise 4 points 1 year ago

I actually just set up my very own SearXNG instance and oh my god it easily smokes every search engine I've used in the past decade or so out of the water. And it doesn't even need much in terms of resources!! I'm spending $6/mo on Digital Cloud's cheapest option, and it all just works flawlessly!

Thanks for the shoutout!

[–] administrator@lemmy.pro 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do you feel about paid search like Kagi? I’ve been using it and think it’s great. No tracking, apparently.

[–] JickleMithers@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I haven't even heard of it so I don't have an opinion on it. If it works for you then great! Technically my private searxng is a paid service since I host it in the cloud but it does have the option to be free if you host it locally.

I'll also add, with a private instance of searxng you know for a fact nothing is getting saved.

[–] administrator@lemmy.pro 1 points 1 year ago

Great qualities, I'll give it a try thank you!

[–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I pay $5 a month to host my own instance of SearXNG on a 1GB Linode server. I am in full control of the server and the source code running it since it's completely open software. I don't have to trust that Kagi is being honest and fear that one day it comes out that they did something stupid like leak my billing address or sell my data through some convoluted legalese change to their terms of service.

Additionally I get access to search results from Bing, Google, DuckDuckGo, and any other provider I want, all without having anything about me or my activity tied to some kind of centralized identity/payment.

[–] administrator@lemmy.pro 1 points 1 year ago

I like the sound of it! Kagi is working well for me, but will consider trying this out very soon.