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Idea: having a political-free instance for new joiners (feddit.org)
submitted 4 days ago by Blaze@feddit.org to c/fedigrow@lemm.ee
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Hello everyone,

Thinking about this as the on-boarding experience on Lemmy can be subpar, especially because new joiners have to

In order to avoid this, what would you think of having a "new joiners" instance, where

  • hexbear, lemmygrad and ml would be defederated
  • politics and news communities would be blocked at the instance level

That could help to onboard people, so that the first time they look around, they see more gardening, cute comics and casual conversation rather than another set of depressing memes.

Disclaimer: politics and societal issues are important and should be discussed extensively (they are quite popular on Lemmy, let's be honest). I'm not advocating to hide them all, just to not show them as the first content people potentially interested in Lemmy would see.

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[–] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Are there tools to allow users to access these types of communities while keeping them hidden from the ‘All’ feed?

Not that I know of, and that's the core of the issue.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

You can do this with /api/v3/community/hide, or in the database by setting community.hidden. Unfortunately this is not available from lemmy-ui yet.

@Kichae@lemmy.ca

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

That's great, thank you!

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

@OpenStars@discuss.online seems like an interesting feature

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, so no change from last year. That was a core reason I abandoned my exploration of Lemmy for use hosting my softball team discussion group. I couldn't prevent it from becoming polluted with my other community subscriptions.

It's a totally overlooked usecase, that I increasingly believe should be a core use case for the software.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The question probably goes down to: should a member of your softball team discussion group be able to use that account to subscribe to !politics@lemmy.ml ?

Anyway, in your case, people would have

  • local feed about the team
  • All feed for all (minus the one you would defederate)
  • Subscribed for their preferred communities

If you set the default feed to Local, that could work?

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Should they? Yes. Focused sites should at least have the option to letting members follow unrelated communities.

But those communities shouldn't necessarily be visible to everyone else, even via All. My teammates don't need to be able to fingerprint each other's niche hobbies, political interests, other-language communities, etc., even if I want to let them engage in those things however they like.

Like, maybe I don't want politics@lemmy.ml showing up in All, but still want to let users find it and subscribe to it if they know it exists. That's a real and reasonable use case, I think. But with fediverse software, end users introduce content into the All feeds, and thus into each other's line of sight. The inability to restrict that at the instance level is quite limiting with respect to the kind of site one might want to present to the world.

The end result was going with a traditional forum. I'm watching nodeBB to see how stuff like this will be handled longer term.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago

The end result was going with a traditional forum. I’m watching nodeBB to see how stuff like this will be handled longer term.

Sounds good. Which forum software did you use?