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[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

An ethnic minority criminalised and prosecuted several times more than the ethnic majority of the country is authoritarian though.

[–] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh, do you have any statistics to bring up showing current, post-2021 incarceration rates by ethnicity in China?

[–] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

only found this

and guess why I couldn't find an official and transparent statistic...

because china is very authoritarian and has a lot to hide

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, Yunnan is an entirely different province than Xinjiang, the one where the reported abuses towards Uyghur are taking place.

and guess why I couldn't find an official and transparent statistic

Because we can't speak Chinese and China publishes such stuff in Chinese language maybe?

because china is very authoritarian

Chinese people feel differently about that, they consistently rate their country as a democracy much more than, say, US citizens do.

[–] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

> Because we can't speak Chinese and China publishes such stuff in Chinese language maybe?

a lot of eu countries publish theirs in english too for the sake of transparancy, but ok

> Chinese people feel differently about that, they consistently rate their country as a democracy much more than, say, US citizens do.

funny, when was the last (fair) election in china? also the reason chinese people don't tell journalists how shitty their lives are is because they could get into a ~~concentration camp~~ reeducation camp for saying that and don't forget that all of that is for nothing since china got the highest millionair density in the world and thus can't be really communist imo and don't start me on holy xi trying to hide homelessness

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Look, Chinese people reportedly care more about democracy and feel more in a democracy than USians, according to a study in Europe! Let's now proceed to ignore all of that because they're afraid of getting sent to labor camps, even when the prison population in the US is larger than in China while having 1/5th of the population!

For the record, I'm not particularly a fan of the Chinese model, it's just that the situation in the US is so bad that it's going to make almost anything look great in comparison lmao

[–] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

china isn't honest about labour camps for muslim minorities, why would they be about the incarceration rate?

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The reeducation camps are long closed. There is absolutely no evidence or indication whatsoever of incarceration rates anywhere close to that of the US, and you making it up just because "China bad" is conspiracy-brained

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

No, its a hallmark of an authoritarian rule, not the proof of one. Believe it or not many places in history have been right bastards and have also been anti-authoritarian (think french revolution, the start of most communist revolutions, etc.) sometimes they are so anti-authoritarian they end up authoritarian.