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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sometimes it's not worth the fight.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel like most self described liberals would be leftists if they actually looked into it anyway

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's my experience, generally. The ones I can get to read a bit of theory tend to be more sympathetic towards Socialism.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not sure. I know a lot of people who believe in capitalism and maintaining it through socialistic injections, but they aren't wanting to give the means of production over to the government/people, which is l what leftist is to me.

It has troubles to get that to work, and often times higher expenses, but that's what they seem comfortable with

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think "socialistic injections" is a misnomer. Capitalism and Socialism are descriptors for entire economies, not parts of them. Generally, reading theory tends to help people support moving towards Socialism.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I get what you mean, but how would you describe Canada's healthcare system or veteran affairs in the U.S.?

Really the same with public schools, roads, libraries, medical coverage for the elderly, SNAP benefits.. they are all socially shared costs by the people, while existing in a capitalistic country

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those are social programs. Socialism and Capitalism are systems overall, the presence of the post office in the US does not alter that character.

Alright so the term programs is the word you prefer to injections. I wasn't saying such programs make the country not capitalistic, I was just saying many people who vote democrat want capitalism with more social programs.

You may be right that if they read more theory they would be more apt to ditch capitalism, but many of them are programmed to reject any talk of other systems.