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[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

someone needs to stop paradox gamers from interfacing with the real world

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah people who make maps like this seem to miss the whole point, borders are rigid, populations are fluid. And even paradox games seem to understand this with various mechanics. (which then tend to take a bit of a genocidal undertone (see the 1 culture speedruns)). E: anyway, due to the massive population in the benelux (30m) and the relative small weak neighbors, this is the best start on this map).

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't there a huge neo-nazi subculture around Paradox games, with weird mods and stuff?

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

As a bit of a map painter, Paradox themselves nowadays takes a pretty anti neo-nazi stance. And most public places do so as well (this was a relatively recent change btw, people didn't seem to notice just how bad remove kebab memes etc were). There is sadly the general undertone of 'ironic' far right meme culture which is pervasive in gaming. So that will always be a problem. So neo-nazis not so much, but people making jokes about genocide, and the high risk of your fave content creator suddenly going some weird anti leftwing/culture war rant which makes it clear he (it is always a he) knows nothing yes very much. No idea how much of these people are crypto-fascists or not, as the rest of the space does seem welcoming to trans people and women. (this is my view of the general paradox gaming culture places I have been into, I'm not denying there are neo-nazi groups into paradox games, they just don't seem to be overt or liked vs the general edgelord gamer types).

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for expanding. I think every company that has a biggish community has to deal with nazi entryism.

This was the story I remembered about this

https://kotaku.com/the-struggle-over-gamers-who-use-mods-to-create-racist-1826606138

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 week ago

Yeah that is certainly a problem, but at least they are kicking the neo-nazi mods/groups out. (Which sadly on steam is a community thing, steam itself doesn't seem to care (just the amount of open transphobia on the forums can be quite much, esp when outsiders decide something is 'woke')). Openly doing this sort of stuff (esp on hoi4) seems to be pretty disliked.

While I have not kept up with it, stellaris had a bit of a bigger crypto-fascist entryism problem. On reddit there used to be a lot xenophobic authoritarian anime girl mod nations posts. And the Xeno-Compatibility perk (basically interbreeding between species) got a bad rep in the reputation to (at least in the past, think it is fixed but the rep remains) causing lot of late game lag. Which the crypto fascists and edgy bros jumped onto.