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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] iii@mander.xyz 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Well yeah, that's just childish.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 4 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, the adult thing to do is destruction of property that actually contributes to the problem.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 9 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, it's behind glass, right? No harm, no foul...?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They could have done it to something that has a connection to climate change. But apparently these people just want to make fools out of themselves.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Respectfully, that's dumb. They should file a request, schedule it on the calendar, get a permit, then quietly protest, getting noticed by as few people as possible...? The point of something like this is awareness and disruption.

And if you think that's not needed, I'd like to remind you that we just elected a government that plans to let Big Oil and giant corporations decimate the planet for short term profit, dismantle the entire Environmental Protection Agency, and withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord. Again, there was no damage to the protected Constitution...

[–] chaos 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe there's a third option besides "do something ineffectual that most people will find annoying, offensive, and unrelated to climate change" and "completely resign ourselves to a climate disaster" that we can try?

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm all ears. This shit's not working, the bad guys are winning, collecting their profits, while the world we all live in is being destroyed...

[–] chaos 3 points 4 hours ago

It's a dire situation and progress isn't nearly fast enough, but progress is getting made. The answer, as ever, isn't satisfying because it's boring and difficult: continue to organize and apply pressure to those in power to take action, and raise awareness by pointing to how it affects people in their own lives. This stunt does neither of those things, and if anything, makes our side look whiny and out of touch.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You either replied to the wrong comment, or completely made up what you think you read.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I did not. You said they should protest something "related to climate change". And after they've reached those people? They're then not allowed to protest anymore while the planet burns? Or does it have to be "themed"? I'm simply saying protests are about rejecting rules and laws to get a point across. Even if you didn't agree with them, you heard about it, and we're talking about it...

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

Correct, they are no longer allowed until they turn around and count to ten.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 5 points 11 hours ago

Give it a go, plenty of glass, plenty of paint.

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