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[–] rekabis@programming.dev 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Strange how this appears to be a very close carbon copy of MGTOW - don’t marry, don’t have kids, don’t cohabitate, focus on yourself over chasing skirts - and yet 4B is celebrated and MGTOW is vilified. Surprising how blatant the anti-male gender bigotry gets.

It gets even crazier when you realize that MGTOW is doing that one thing women have been begging men to do for generations - for men to leave them completely alone, to not approach them or flirt with them or bother them in any way - and yet MGTOW men are crucified for doing exactly that.

Hypocrisy, much?

I mean, 4B is a good thing. Humanity is already four times past the planet’s safe carrying capacity, so less humans are what we should be aiming for. Plus, if this 4B thing takes off and has a deep impact over decades, most women involved with it will exit out of their fertility window - from age 15 to 35 - without ever having had a child.

I’m an egalitarian. If MGTOW is a thing, why not 4B? Both should be able to exist.

What I have a problem with, however, is that any fair and equitable society cannot celebrate one and vilify the other. Otherwise, why call it “equality,” when it is anything but that?

[–] AwakenedAce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The 4B movement in South Korea is meant to oppose their patriarchal state because they don't want to be viewed as reproductive tools.

On the other hand the movement you're talking about is meant to "protect" against feminism and oppose a supposed bias against men in society, which is ludicrous when you consider that women are discriminated against much much more to the point it's not even comparable. It's just a misogynistic movement.

So no, this isn't hypocrisy, these are very different.

Now, if men made a movement to protest gendered expectations or real problems without jumping through a thousand hoops to blame feminism, and without its logic being based in misogyny, I think that would be better received.

[–] apotheotic 3 points 5 days ago

Very well said

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 4 points 6 days ago

Dat subtext tho