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I for one am going through quite a culture shock. I always assumed the nature of FOSS software made it immune to be confined within the policies of nations; I guess if one day the government of USA starts to think that its a security concers for china to use and contribute to core opensource software created by its citizens or based in their boundaries, they might strongarm FOSS communities and projects to make their software exclude them in someway or worse declare GPL software a threat to national security.

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[–] red@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

well yeah, how does us being democracy change the fact that they basically did almost everything that Russia did

[–] troed@fedia.io 6 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

"basically"

You'll be surprised if you actually challenge your convictions.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I did, and I found that the US does WORSE shit than Russia sometimes.

Russia ain’t good. Neither is the US. Get your head out of your ass.

[–] troed@fedia.io 4 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Heard about what Russia has been doing in the occupied parts of Ukraine?

[–] basmati@lemmus.org 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Heard about what the US did in Afghanistan? US soldiers raped a LOT of children before and after murdering their entire families.

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

America JUST exited a decades long war where the only results were death and destruction.

[–] troed@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago

Tell me more about the US government requiring their soldiers to rape pre-teen girls then.

Or, you know, they really aren't the same.

[–] Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Are you sure you want to compare how many wars the US has waged compared to Russia and how many people they've murdered each?

That commenter is doing you a favour by implying it's anywhere close.

[–] troed@fedia.io 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The current Russian govt is not aligned with Soviet principles or ideology, right?

And the Stalin period saw the Soviets fighting and defeating the Nazis in WW2. Does the calculation of excess mortalities account for such effects too?
Nazi instigators punished, famine caused by the effect of war, infrastructure damage by the Nazis, deaths in Nazi occupied areas. These things don't seem to be discussed much.

Invasion of Vietnam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_in_the_Vietnam_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Afghanistan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemalan_genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_assassination_attempts_on_Fidel_Castro
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/us_atrocities.html#sources--starting-points

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_United_States

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese-American_internment_camps

And since the current Russia is seen as the extension of the Soviets:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_genocide_in_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_of_1876-1878
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_major_famines_in_India_during_British_rule