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[–] spoonbill@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago (14 children)

I’m confused where you believe consumers are given choice here.

I'm confused by you being confused. Consumers can pick a subscription with a data cap, or they can pick one without. Maybe you can clarify what you are confused about?

Clearly this is a marketing issue, not a technical one.

Why not both? Marketing can be a great way to work around technical issues, e.g. by steering consumer behaviour in a way that avoids the technical issues.

Also, just because one network has sufficient spare capacity to not steer users to reduce data usage does not mean that every network does that. In fact this is where choice comes in: I can pick a provider which spends more money on the network, resulting in a higher costs, but also higher caps. Or I can pick a provider that spends less on networks, resulting in lower costs, but needing caps to make sure the limited bandwidth is sufficient for all customers.

The industry has grown up since then, technically speaking, and there is no cause for data caps except to line the pockets of ISPs.

You mean except the reason I gave, and you ignored?

[–] Vodulas 5 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Consumers can pick a subscription with a data cap, or they can pick one without.

I am in a major metropolitan area and I do not have an option to have no data caps. Even the slow internet plans have them. I don't think you realize the stranglehold telecoms have on consumers.

[–] spoonbill@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

The solution to lack of choice is even less choice?

Fight monopolies by adding choice, not just accepting that monopolies/cartels are natural and just the way things have to be.

[–] Vodulas 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

WHAT CHOICE!? Data caps are on all plans. What options are there? Lay out what you think the choices are.

[–] spoonbill@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Data caps are on all plans.

Nonsense. There are lots of plans without caps. Maybe not where you live, but at most that means caps should be banned where you live. IMHO it makes much more sense to require offering a cappless plan, rather than banning capped.

Edit: Googling for "capless internet usa" gives as the first result https://broadbandnow.com/guides/no-data-caps, listing several providers.

[–] Vodulas 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you live outside the US? The way the US works is far less centralized than other countries. Most of this time this kind of stuff is left up to state regulations or even city regulations and contracts. The truth is that capless plans exist, but that is not the reality for large swaths of the US. You're taking a broad approach to a specific problem. Ending data caps ends at the Federal level ends the problem and does away with the mess of state BS. Anyway, I am done talking to a brick wall. Have a good one

[–] spoonbill@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

I'm taking a broad approach? The article is literally about the FCC. You know, the Federal Communications Commission. That applies to the entire country.

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