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As the title states I am confused on this matter. The way I see it, the USA has a two party system and in the next few weeks they’re either going to have Trump or Harris as president, come inauguration day. With this in mind doesn’t it make sense to vote for the person least likely to escalate the situation even more.

Giving your vote to an independent or worse not voting at all, just gives more of a chance for Trump to win the election and then who knows what crazy stuff he will allow, or encourage, Israel to get away with.

I really don’t get the logic. As sure nobody wants to vote for a party allowing these heinous crimes to be committed, but given you’re getting one of them shouldn’t you be voting for the one that will be the least horrible of the two.

Please don’t come at me with pro-Israeli rhetoric as this isn’t the post for that, I’m asking about why people would make such choices and I’m not up for debate on the Middle East, on this post, you can DM me for that.

Edit: Bedtime here now so will respond to incoming comments in the morning, love starting the day with an inbox full 😊.

Edit 2: This blew up, it’s a little overwhelming right now but I do intent on replying to everybody that took the time to comment. Just need to get in the right headspace.

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

I honestly appreciate the downvotes as a counter of angry people shamed into silence

Good. You should be fucking ashamed.

[–] Mechaguana@programming.dev 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah the "democrats are the REAL nazis" is tiring when you get comments from the republican hero agent Orange: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-generals-hitler/680327/

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Shut the fuck up. I never said the republicans weren't nazis. I'm just fucking sick of you being an out and open nazi and acting like you fucking aren't.

[–] tangentism 14 points 3 weeks ago

Their tiny liberal brains can't handle anything that isn't a binary choice.

They have fully accepted, absorbed and now spout George W Bush's slogan of "You're either with us or with the terrorists" without any irony that they are the terrorists!

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

“Everyone I don’t like is a nazi”

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Everyone on the side of genocide can be called a Nazi, yes.

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m not voting democrat because I “support genocide”, I’m voting democrat because if Trump gets elected, shit is about to get a WHOLE lot worse. It is damage control

You can keep sitting here and acting like a fucking child throwing a temper tantrum because you don’t like the reality of our only choices, but you are being just that. A child.

You can sit on the sidelines on your little soapbox and virtue signal all you want, but when Trump wins I won’t be blaming the republicans. I’ll be blaming all of you.

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You let your mask slip by calling opposing genocide "virtue signalling". You're a bad person and a bad advocate for the democrats.

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Whatever you say, buddy. Do something of value instead of sitting here bitching at regular people just trying to survive (aka virtue signaling)

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

I like everyone but nazis

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

As I said, I want to personally thank you and your ilk for Trump winning this election.

Congratulations. You let the fascists win to “stick it to the libs”

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh please. As if my actions were for petty spite and not the actual reasons I stated. As if the focus of my anger is dipshits like you and not the people with the actual blood on their hands? You annoy the fuck out of me but my hatred isn't directed at you.

That said, I think it's fucking good you're pissed off and upset. You deserve to be. You did a terrible thing. And you didn't even get what you sold out your basic human decency for. Not to mention selling out people having their entire families killed day after day. Now you're a nazi and a loser. How does it feel?

My fault? I fucking wish. The democrats did such a deliberately dogshit job with such a dogshit candidate leftists (and the muslims that will never forget your vicious racism towards them) were a fraction of the votes they threw away. I don't even live in one of the two states that even had a realistic claim to a vote in this election. Why are you getting upset at people for not voting when you don't even live in a real democracy in the first place?

Your anger needs to be directed at the political system itself. God I wish people like you would stop and have a sober assessment of what the democratic party does and why. You're angry because the people committing a genocide lost because that means the fascists won?? Are you fucking hearing yourself?? By any semi-rigorous definition of the word, the democratic party are fascists. When BLM happened they brutalized the protestors and responded on the backend by ballooning the police state. (The budget at least even if they can't find recruits). Fascism is capitalism in decay discarding the soft power that keeps people in line and resorting to the tactics that work on the imperial periphery against the domestic population.

You cannot vote fascism out of a fascist country. The frustration you feel right now is built into the system. This is the only outcome you're ever going to get. I'm glad you're feeling it right now. I wish you still felt it when Biden was doing literally fucking everything Trump was doing and will now continue to. Please take this time to reassess your political understanding. You will never save yourself with voting.

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

Blah blah. You helped Trump. Blocked.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, you're misreading that.