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[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm sure the maintainers are in talks with Putin directly

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Maybe not Putin personally, but it's an autocracy. If/when the Russian government comes knocking on their door and tells them that they need to do x, y, and z with the kernel, otherwise they will mysteriously fall from a high window (an extremely credible threat these days), what do you think they'll do? What do you think you would do?

Sucks for the majority of Russian developers that want to participate in the FOSS community, but I get it. It is a national security issue.

This is kind of how sanctions are meant to work. We could have a discussion about whether or not sanctions should be used as it is sort of a form of collective punishment, but that's a separate argument.

They want regular Russians to "feel it," so that there is more pressure from the populace to get them to stop doing the shit they were sanctioned over. Obviously, in an autocracy, it's much easier to just ignore and suppress dissent. But, generally, the idea is to make everybody feel the consequences for invading a sovereign nation.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If/when the Russian government comes knocking on their door and tells them that they need to do x, y, and z with the kernel

CIA could do that too.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Dunno. But this post is about Linus Torwalds booting Russians from an open source project due to their association with a warmongering regime. It's nothing to do with the US.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

You seriously think that the US are not warmongering?

My point was, that your enemy might be in your ranks. Some of your dotzend secret services might have other goals than the interests of the common people. It's rarely only black and white.

Btw, didn't they ask Linus to include a backdoor once already?

[–] RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 weeks ago

Linux isn’t a sovereign nation. This isn’t difficult.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Are there no American or Israeli maintainers?

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Is the country of Linus beholden to sanctioning those countries?

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 weeks ago

Not sure but they should

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 weeks ago

Any moderator want to actually let me know why my comment was removed, or...?

Is pointing out the dangers of working in an autocratic nation against the rules?