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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

i guess this person refuses to work or patronize a place that uses pest control for cockroaches?

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

agreed. insects are definitely not animals

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

TIL lol

i get there's a difference between exploitation and extermination, i'm just not seeing how one is "immoral" and the other isn't

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm personally an amoralist vegan so I can't really speak to that exactly, but it comes down to practicality and health. Veganism is usually about reducing harm as far as is practical (I.e., without risk to your own health), so most vegans make exceptions for medical needs, etc.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

reduction of harm is really the best point, and i can't think of an argument against it

[–] Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because cockroaches are considered harmful to humans, some people just can't leave cockroaches alone and live correctly.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

some people just can’t leave cockroaches alone and live correctly

some people can't be around peanuts. or bees for that matter

[–] Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And we have to respect the peanuts' right to be everywhere, right?

Peanuts and bees usually don't invade your home. And if they did, some would argue it's acceptable to get rid of them. I'm pretty sure you can figure this out.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

some would argue it’s acceptable

some would argue that eating honey is not immoral

edit: also, funny how you bring up "invading homes" while agriculture inherently, necessarily is invading the homes of all sorts of animals. i guess "some would argue that's acceptable" also?

[–] Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

some would argue that eating honey is not immoral

Sure.

The point of going vegetarian or vegan is to aim at a reduction of animal suffering and environmental footprint. Not to starve by choice. Agriculture is still better than more agriculture needed to consume meat.
What's the problem exactly?

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago
[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Heh, nice try at having standards but since it is impossible to not harm anything then obviously possibly harming for pleasure is fine. Checkmate loser.

Now I am going to depict you as the crying wojack and me as the handsome wojack.