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We don't need any knew infrastructure, we just need to get cars out of the way

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[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The transition needs to be easy for adoption to happen though. I think first replacing cars with not-cars, and only then scaling cities to be more walkable makes sense.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't see how going from car to proper city planning is any harder than going from not-car to proper city planning. This just feels like an extra unnecessary step that could be taking resources away from the city planning part.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you make a city hostile to cars first, people will still have their cars and their commutes, it will just double the time it takes for them to get anywhere. You will lose support for any further changes.

If you replace the cars first, such that no one's daily schedules are significantly altered, and then condense the cities, then the change might be less jarring for those who can't weather dramatic changes in their lifestyle.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you replace the cars first, such that no one's daily schedules are significantly altered,

Is that going to happen if you replace cars with another vehicle that still requires car infrastructure?

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

it shouldn't, should it? Switch an ICE for electric, as long as they travel the same daily distance and meet the same use cases, the only lifestyle change would be the expense.