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Hard drives from the last 20 years are now slowly dying.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Isnt the standard preservation system tape drives? They tested the longevity of different storage solutions ages ago to avoid stuff like this.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It is. Magnetic tape is still king.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

Not really. Disk took over when the clouds started offering cheap archiving. Tape is getting more and more rare.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not really. Disk is king now since S3 storage took the crown when cloud services started offering cheap archiving. Anything still on disk from the 90s is some neglected archive that has been deemed by the company to have no value.

I would assume they're finding this out now because they're trying to feed their whole archive to the AI beast.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah no, thats not an "archive" you are talking about thats just a bunch of storage. Archives are for things like historical, government, artistic data. That stuff sits in airtight cases on tape storage in a bunker.

Obviously any drive that is constantly in use to deliver data to customers is gonna die, thats never going to change. But these were actually intended to be used for archiving but failed at doing exactly that.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Archive is whatever companies want it to be. I've been told anything that's not microfilm isn't an archive, so there you go.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Words have meaning, it doesnt matter what some company says.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sure, in the world of social media you can enforce whatever arbitrary terms you wish.

"Hello Customer CIO, unexposedhazard on Lemmy says you're using the term Archive wrong, so I'm going to have to ask you to stop."

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

You're currently having a conversation on an article about cold storage. The comment you replied to was about this article, and hence also about cold storage. It makes absolutely no sense to come into this conversation saying that they're wrong about how cold storage works because your experience with hot storage doesn't line up.

[–] justinthegeek@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

S3 archive is on glacier which is all tape

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

How do I get Glacier instant retrieval from a tape?