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submitted 4 months ago by vwbusguy@mastodon.online to c/programming@fedia.io

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It's easy for one generation of workers to take for granted stuff that previous generations of workers fought so hard for. Many junior devs now just get to use git and deploy on Linux in a container via a test driven CI change system with their IDE of choice without having to spend months to years to decades justifying each piece of that architecture to various skeptical managers who have a passionate lingering affinity for Windows XP.

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[–] vwbusguy@mastodon.online 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

This of course begs the question, what are us senior level folks standing in the way of for innovation from the next generation?

Oddly, one thing I've seen is junior devs discovering older methods, like using a mysql or postgresql RDBMS engine with actual SQL, to be an effective way to solve a problem and having to justify not using some fancy expensive cloud SaaS DB instead.

I think they may be on to something there.

[–] in0rdr@m.in0rdr.ch 1 points 4 months ago

@vwbusguy@mastodon.online I was doing some PostgreSQL related refactoring on my hobby project this weekend and found that it's really fun to re-discover the software/processes behind the SaaS services (everyone cooks with water 💧). It's sad to watch once simple and good services go to waste, but it inspires to find out how things could work behind the scenes. A really satisfying process.

[–] bouncing@twit.social 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@vwbusguy@mastodon.online Another corollary: a lot of professional Python programmers today are using Python because their managers told them it’s the default tech stack. I’m not sure what the implications are long-term, but I’m pretty sure it means a declining in code quality.

This is coincident with Python itself becoming quite a bit more complex over time, even as its standard library becomes less useful.

[–] vwbusguy@mastodon.online 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

@bouncing Having worked in front end and backend development when php was king, I very much would like to push back on blaming python for anything with regard to bad coding. PHP5 let you get away with so much worse than python ever did.

You definitely can write bad python code, but it is still opinionated about a good many things that are good to be opinionated about.