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[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (11 children)

You know, thinking about it, I doubt this is a coincidence.

The finger-counting is familiar to me as a technique for lucid dreaming. If you look at your hands in a dream, your brain will kinda fuck it up, so if you train yourself to pay attention to that you realize you are dreaming and become lucid.

My guess is that the origin of fae is something like sleep paralysis deamons or hallucinations, and people realized they could detect those from the same flaws of our own imagination.

Now for AI, it isn't really drawing. What we are using in image-AI is still much more like projecting up a mental image, dreaming. We can't get it right all at once either, even our human brain is not good enough at it, it is reasonable image-AI makes the same kind of mistakes.

The next step would logically be to emulate the drawing process. You need to imagine up an image, then observe it at large, check for inconsistencies using reasoning and visual intuition.
Hone in on any problems, stuff that doesn't look right or doesn't make sense. Lines not straight.
Then start reimagining those sections, applying learned techniques and strategies, painter stuff (I am not an artist).
Loosely I imagine the ai operating a digital drawing program with a lot of extra unusual tools like paste imagination or telepathic select, or morph from mind.

The main thing differentiating dreaming from painting is that for painting you can "write stuff down" and don't have to keep it all in your head all the time. This allows you to iterate and focus in without loosing all the detail everywhere else.

[–] bobotron@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (5 children)
[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The other day I thought I was in a dream because my torso was missing when I saw my reflection in a window. Even when I moved. It legit made me jump. Turns out the middle section of the window was open so it was reflecting light from someplace else.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you feel like you can think clearly and are questioning if you are dreaming but are unsure, you are not.
All methods of lucid dreaming aim at making you think clearly and question if you are in a dream. With that thought, it should be quite obvious to confirm you are in fact in a dream. Dreams are really not that good, sleeping is just kinda like a heavy suspension of disbelief.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 months ago

This must depend on the person.

Dreaming is dreaming and being awake is being awake.

Completely different experiences for me, can't imagine how someone could confuse them, though people obviously do, so they must be experiencing it differently.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

However I have a slight problem in that I struggle to connect to my mirror image even when awake and sober lmao

Then again, sometimes it does feel like I'm dreaming when awake and sober so

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wherever I see weird things in a dream and I'm lucid enough to notice, I just panic thinking that something's wrong with my brain, followed by doing anything I can to get to a hospital.

[–] sunbather 3 points 2 months ago

pretty funny how different reactions ppl can have, when i was younger and thought i might be lucid dreaming my first thought would always be to try generating flame in my palm or some other anime move

[–] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Is this really useful? Like, is this something people ever need to do? I don't do lucid dreams very often, but the rare times a dream has lead me to the thought of "hold on, am I dreaming?" were basically immediately answered by just, uh, vibes, I guess? Like, it's always just been instantly obvious that I'm dreaming the moment I'd start questioning it, no tests necessary. At worst I might have to try to remember what I did the day before and what I was supposed to be doing that day and see if that is at all compatible with the scenario I'm dreaming about, which it usually isn't.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 months ago

DO YOU LOOK DIFFERENT?

Depends on how many hours I've been in bed. 🤷‍♂️

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