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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, but this is dangerous misinformation that you're spreading. Refined carbohydrates are harmful and can contribute to the various forms of metabolic syndrome. However one thing being bad doesn't automatically make something good, and there is still no single factor in heart disease that's more causally linked than saturated fats. To demonize sugar and say fats don't play the most significant role is about equivalent with being a climate change denier.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OkqWdY5_2-8

They're somewhat more on the frontier of nutritional science, but no other interventions out there have had as promising of results as Esselstyn's and Ornish's lifestyle medicine practices - both of which call for reductions or even eliminations of cooking oil that is considered radical by most people's standards. But their results speak for themselves.

https://www.dresselstyn.com/site/

https://ornish.com/

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

and there is still no single factor in heart disease that’s more causally linked than saturated fats.

High blood pressure, smoking, diabetes/overweight/inactive, are the main risk factors. High cholesterol has been debunked not to mention that dietary cholesterol has no correlation with blood cholesterol.

Saturated fats are fine, our nutritional woes didn't start when we started eating butter that was millennia ago. Various trans-fats are right-out evil and hydrogenated fats should be avoided the data still isn't particularly clear on those.

Like, you're attacking pretty much any nut fat when you're attacking saturated fats. No, coconuts are not responsible for modern levels of heart disease Samoans didn't have the absurdly high levels they currently have when they still were, in fact, eating much more coconuts and much less simple carbs. Similar with Inuit, but with saturated fats from meat instead.

but no other interventions out there have had as promising of results as Esselstyn’s and Ornish’s lifestyle medicine practice

You sound like a brochure. If you want to convince me of that kind of claim link an independent metastudy. You're on /c/science_memes, remember.