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Chinese EV owners are losing access to smartphone app updates and driving features when companies go bust (restofworld.org)

submitted 2 months ago by tardigrada to c/technology

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Chinese drivers’ frustrations point to the broader risks of “smartphones on wheels,” where reliability is contingent upon software maintenance and updates.
Owners are worried about their access to factory parts in future repair

As Chinese car owners brace for further consolidation of the country’s hypercompetitive EV market, the fact that many electric cars rely on cloud services — from smartphone controls to software updates — has raised concerns about the long-term serviceability of the vehicles.

Intense price wars and the phasing out of government subsidies have left a number of the nation’s EV manufacturers — estimated at more than 100 — struggling for survival. Since 2020, more than 20 EV makers in China, including Singulato and Aiways, have left the market. Most recently, the high-end carmaker HiPhi, which only sold 4,520 vehicles in 2022, halted production in February as it wrestled with financial woes. WM Motor was the largest Chinese electric carmaker to date to become insolvent, having sold approximately 100,000 vehicles between 2019 and 2022.

Between EV companies that have filed for bankruptcy and those that have halted operations, an estimated 160,000 Chinese car owners are left in the lurch, according to the China Automobile Dealers Association.

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[–] jarfil 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

By the time they're about to go belly up, companies no longer have the resources to ensure they comb through the code to remove the parts licensed from 3rd parties, and the liquidators see all assets as something to sell in order to cover whatever loans the company got.

In an ideal world, consumers would never buy a non-open sourced car, or phone, or IoT device.

In the real world, regulators need to force companies to give consumers at least some basic way to control the products they buy.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Since this is China, you should have just bought a non Chinese car if you expect support.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Nothing to do with being Chinese. Amazon is going to brick some of their devices that play music in cars IIRC. There are western companies that made pace makers who closed source their communication protocols, went bust, and now the pace makers are in patients who have no way to service them.

Opensourcing after deprecation should be written into law.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

100%. Should be an international law.