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So Israel break international law and then Starmer asks Iran to just suck it up, saying it will put the ceasefire in jeopardy, ignoring the fact that Israel just assassinated the lead negotiator. What in the bloody fuck?

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[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

pointing out that when you say “iran and israel should face international justice”, you only mean “iran should face international justice” is relevant, yes

But I don't mean that. My posting history about Israel suggests nothing of the sort. It's mostly me talking about what other people have said about Israel. When I do give my own opinions on Israel, they're 1. To criticise Starmer's earlier, weak position on Gaza; 2. To criticise Trump moving the US embassy. To characterise those comments as though they represent a year's worth of pro-Israel comments is ludicrous.

I'm not interested in talking about this any further with you.

Also, it wouldn't actually silence his critics on this, precisely because it won't change anything. The war will continue, so people would just start demanding that [Starmer] demand issuing arrest warrants for Israeli government ministers who come to the UK, or trade embargoes, or whatever.

i guess defending starmer's "earlier, weak position on gaza" is more or less equivalent to criticism of it