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Why I think people should consider using different pronouns in different spaces (youtu.be)

submitted 3 months ago by rosethornRangerTTV to c/chat

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[–] Lionir 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hmmm, I honestly thought this was going to explore the topic of people that are in the closet about their gender identity. Or maybe, plural people. I find this video more confusing than anything.

I think the way you describe it is perhaps too abstract for me to understand the points you're making.

I find this passage rather distressing however "Pronouns reference the framework you expect someone to use to process your words". I find that language scary sounding. It feels like specifying someone's pronouns is forcing an ideology or status on someone and I just don't think that's true at all.

I also don't think saying gender has "dedicated pronouns" is really accurate. Neopronouns exist and they still confer meaning to the person so I don't think it's a defined set. Different languages also have different pronoun systems which complicate creating a specific set.

I find the third argument kind of odd. I think that displaying pronouns in general has the same effect you're describing without the need for different pronouns in different spaces. The same thing is true for things like a role bot or other tools to allow people to display their pronouns.

[–] rosethornRangerTTV 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean pronouns dedicated to gender, so gender has pronouns dedicated to it, not that it is some universal list. Also, you aren't "forcing an ideology" on someone, if you describe something in terms of an ideology people must use an understanding of that ideology to process your words, for example. If I write something in binary you have to use a binary decoder to read it, you will get nothing useful if you use something else, so forcing you to decode binary is forcing you to use binary. There is nothing scary about that.

people who are parts of a system can do pronouns either way, so this isn't much more relevant to them in the first place. Trans people in the closet are included in this.

Some of the same people will see you in different spaces, so it will have a different impact.