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So y'all don't see a connection with overwhelmed local community infrastructure, the lack of affordable housing, not investing in enough in schools and healthcare, and a tidal wave of immigrants at ridiculously high levels?
Yeah, not all problems are connected, but some are. And while it's ultimately the fault of the politicians for creating the immigration policies, immigrants still have free will.
There is no "tidal wave" of immigrants anywhere in Europe nor in other "developed" countries. All the problems you mention exist on their own and would affect the local population just as much if there were no immigrants. Edit: we could argue about "immigrants" Vs. "refugees" here, but the regular immigrants don't come in small boats.
That's a straight up lie and you know it. 8 million in 4 years is a tidal wave no matter how you slice it.
Source? There are not even 8 million refugees in all of the EU together. The total refugee population is around 7 million in the entire EU.
And even if they would have all arrived in the last 4 years (which they didn't, less than half did & mostly from Ukraine), that "tidal wave" of around 1.5% of the total population sure is massive /s
Edit: The 8 million "immigrants" figure for the US is fake news as well.
No. I don't.
The problem is not immigrants.
The problem is a broken government system that fails to allocate resources effectively.
The problem is whole ass political parties are incentivized to keep the system broken so they can blame immigrants and leftists/liberals and get votes.
I mean, if you make it illegal for an undocumented immigrant to get a driver's license, you don't get to complain that undocumented immigrants are driving without licenses. If you make it illegal for undocumented immigrants to work legal jobs, you can't complain that undocumented immigrants are working under the table for sketchy employers at shit wages. You know?
There's only so many resources, no country can take millions of people in a single year and ramp up quickly enough to handle them.
I disagree. Countries don't have to "handle" people. Most people can handle themselves - if the laws and government allow it. Immigrants don't want to live in poverty and dependent on welfare any more than citizens do. They want to work, they want to have homes, they want to support themselves and their families. And if they get forced into accepting welfare or engaging in illegal work or criminal activity, it's because a broken immigration system doesn't allow them to live or work legally.
Ninety percent of the "border crisis" in the US or the "refugee crisis" in Europe could be solved if countries just let people in and gave them work permits.
Some people need help, I realize. And if social services in Western countries weren't so overloaded and underfunded by bad government policies they'd have room to help immigrants as well.
I mean, one in three calories produced in the United States is thrown away. Wasted. When you complain about food banks being overloaded by hungry immigrants, don't blame the immigrants, blame the stores that dump millions of dollars of product straight into dumpsters covered with bleach, and the laws that allow it.
Ten percent of homes in the United States are vacant. When you complain about housing costs being driven up by immigration, don't blame the immigrants, blame the landlords who let houses and apartments sit empty to keep rents high, and the laws that allow it.
And so on and so forth. If immigrants are "straining" our systems - and that strain has been much exaggerated in the media - it's not because we don't have enough resources. It's because we badly mismanage the resources we have. It's not a resource issue, it's a policy issue.
Fact check: what are the numbers on "ridiculously high levels"?
At least 8 million that we encountered during Biden's admin alone. https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/ogr_icymi.pdf
That's a fake figure some Republicans pulled out of their ass: https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/
By Gods, that is an official document from what is supposed to be an oversight committee? It reads like a biased propaganda sheet with no references and spelling mistakes everywhere.
I see it says 8 million "migrant encounters" yet there is no source for that figure stated (only numerous other reports from the same committee). Is it 8 million different people? Did they all come in this year? Who is reporting the figure?
Also I'd like to know the definition of a "migrant encounter". That doesn't even state they are illegal migrants, or that there was anything illegal about the encounter. Who are they encountering?
The problems you point out are due to underfunding and under provisioning all these services. There is no tidal wave, just money not allocated in the right places.