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Wasn't lemmy created by tankies? Avoided it for kbin (I'm aware of the federation) due to this.
When I see people say what you’re saying, I know that they don’t have a basic handle on how the Fediverse or Lemmy works.
They developed the platform and currently run Lemmy.ml. The whole point of federation is that they cant control other instances.
You’re safe from the big bad scary communists on Lemmy.
Kbin.social doesn't defederate lemmy.ml, so either way we're playing by their "don't say Uyghur genocide because we don't think it's real and we will ban you based on that belief" rules if we accidentally stumble into there.
This is where I would like to see individual-level instance blocking so that it doesn't show up in the home feed, same as how I can block everything that pops up in a language I don't speak.
Edit: Turns out we have that! Just found another thread showing how. On kbin, it's possible to view entire instances separately, and there's a "block" button similar to individual magazines/communities/users. To see lemmy.ml, the link would be
https://kbin.social/d/lemmy.ml
but replacing the lemmy.ml part with any instance should take people to that instance just the same.
Again, kbin.social is just one instance of kbin. Go find another if it doesn't suit you. See https://fedidb.org/software/kbin
I’m glad you found a solution!
And Reddit has been backed by Tencent - CCP supporters by default - and Peter Thiel - a white supremacists and actual, literal fascist.
The politics of the people behind for-profit endeavours that the public has no actual control over regardless of stake seemingly never comes up. The politics of people behind things that challenge for-profit endeavours and gives control of things back to the public is often under the microscope.
We don't know ernest's politics. What if it came out tomorrow that he was an anarchist? Or that he was also a Leninist? Or was a white supremacist? Or that he liked Nickelback?
I'll see past many things, but Nickelback?
Not even once.
Lemmy the software vs lemmy.ml the server.
Doesn't matter since they don't and also can't retain control over the network, and the network by and large all defederated lemmygrad.
Lemmy kinda belongs to its users now.
Not until its users actually start developing Lemmy the software.
I mean they are?
You can host an instance, and if the instance is doing something you don't like, you can certainly change it and prevent it from doing it. If the main Lemmy devs put stuff in most people don't like, the software will just get forked, and most instances will use the non-shitty version.
Lemmy is what the majority of users want it to be, since everyone can just start a competing site that's not suffering from the "outside-the-walled-garden" effect, with a different featureset. Users will move to the instance with the best featureset for themselves.
And Thomas Edison electrocuted animals to death. Yet we still use lightbulbs.
It's open source so who cares
It doesn't really matter who created it. If you're using an instance not hosted by by creators, then they can't in any way benefit from it. That's the beauty of federation.