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I found this netbook(?) somewhere in old things and just wonder: can linux be installed on it?

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 56 points 4 months ago (6 children)

It’s already running Linux. You just showed us a screenshot of it running Android, which is Linux.

[–] randomname01@feddit.nl 81 points 4 months ago

Clearly not the point of OP’s question though

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 4 months ago

the ACKSHYUALLY is strong with this one

[–] Templa 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Does this means can install any repo on my phone?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

If you can root your phone, probably some of them, perhaps many of them, but that probably wouldn’t make for a very good phone.

[–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 1 points 4 months ago

Sadly no, because while Android is based on Linux, it is so far removed that the kernel is wildly different. Some teams such as mobian, SFOS, postmarketOS, etc. have got fair dinkum Linux running on android devices though.

[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

For better or worse the more correct name GNU/Linux did not catch on and is universally shortened to Linux. Android uses the Linux kernel, but is not GNU/Linux, and therefore is not Linux.

[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 22 points 4 months ago

Alpine Linux users are in shambles.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

This is some ass-backwards logic. You’re trying to redefine Linux and then declaring that Android does not meet your novel definition. If Android, Alpine, and Chimera are not Linux, then what are they?

[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago

they are operating systems that use the linux kernel, just like GNU/Linux (aka "Linux") does.

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

GNU/Linux != Linux

Linux is a kernel

GNU/Linux is the GNU userland (tools and libraries) combined with the Linux kernel to form a complete operating system

Android is Linux but not GNU. So are Alpine, postmarketOS, and others I can't think of

Linux is to an operating system as bread is to a sandwich... an essential component, but a slice of bread by itself does not make a sandwich make

[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago

Most of what you said is exactly my point. It's true the word Linux, used properly, refers to a kernel and not an operating system. But that's not the way the word is used in practice, and it is not what OP meant when they used it. They meant " an OS with the Linux kernel and GNU userspace utilities." When the word Linux is used that way, Android is not Linux.

[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

I feel like that's precisely the point they tried to make

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

~~As much as a human has of a lizard (lizardbrain). Are we still Lizards?~~

~~And "Android" specifically is a certified package with proprietary apps.~~

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Firstly humans having lizard brains is pop science nonsense, and secondly humans and lizards are amniotes. And thirdly, the Android userland is Apache 2.0 licensed, regardless of whatever proprietary apps might or might not be installed on top of it, and the vast majority of Linux distros’ kernels have proprietary binary blob drivers installed in them.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 4 points 4 months ago

Ok, you got me there. Was a hard day.