30 Rock S3E8 (2009)
Bonus: A similar joke from the Office (US) S1E2 (2005)
this post was submitted on 20 Jun 2024
56 points (100.0% liked)
30 Rock
16 readers
3 users here now
A community for the fans and critics of the show 30 Rock.
Discussion of the show, pictures from the show and anything else 30 Rock related.
Rules:
- All DubVee instance rules apply. See the sidebar at https://dubvee.org. Those are pretty comprehensive, so we don't really need to add much to those.
- No politics outside of what's referenced on the show. Let's leave that drama elsewhere since there's plenty of it.
- All posts must be 30 Rock related or adjacent. You dummies are awesome, so I don't think I've ever had to mod any posts for this, but codifying it for good measure.
- Less a rule and more of a guideline, but please try to provide alt text if your instance + client combination support it. If not, then please try to make an effort to provide a description of any image posts in the post body. Let's be an a11y when we can :)
- Don't make fun of people for misusing dated cultural references. Are we all cowabunga on this?
- No talking about Krang. It would be a waste of time to talk about Krang on ~~television~~ the internet.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Not to try too hard to explain the joke but I think the core concept being highlighted here is one of a perceived discrepancy between "diversity inclusive descriptors" and terms that imply "otherness." For example, a white person might feel uncomfortable using the term "black" but would be comfortable with terms like "person of color" and "African-American." Linguistically, this might be because "person of color" implies that the individual is first and foremost a person and that their color, in an ethnic sense, is an additive quality to their "personness." I'm a person. You're a person. We're all...persons. That sort of thing. Similarly, a person who is African-American is, much like the (I'm going to assume American) white speaker, also American. It's the idea of an immediately identifiable, if unspoken, shared quality.
I interpreted it more as (like the title implies) Jack's inherent racism. Due to the type of company he usually surrounds himself with, the only time he ever hears the term "Puerto Rican" is in a negative context, in which someone is using the term as a way to insult someone or complain or something. Jack does not have a diverse enough friend circle to actually have ever heard someone use the term "Puerto Rican" to refer to someone's ethnicity without making some sort of judgement on the person.
Isn't that just racism? I thought internalized racism when minorities unconsciously assimilate to the racism they are subjected to.
I think we can all agree Liz (and Jack) are pretty racist.