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Geopolitics community is just a propaganda outlet (lemmy.ca)

submitted 5 months ago by GameGod@lemmy.ca to c/main@lemmy.ca

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The sole moderator doesn't even follow their own rules: https://lemmy.ca/post/22741340?scrollToComments=true

I'll just say it - it's a Russian propaganda community. Is there any reason this community needs to exist on Lemmy.ca? Is there a rule against blatant astroturfing / propaganda / misinformation? I don't think the 5 rules in the sidebar are going to be enough to stop an army of trolls:

No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, > or xenophobia. Be respectful. Everyone should feel welcome here. No porn. Use the NSFW tag when needed. No Ads / Spamming. Bot accounts need to be flagged as such in their settings.

Maybe time to get ahead of it?

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[–] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If 50, 75, or 90% of users on an instance block a community, would that hinder moderation to catch instances of misinformation that did pop up? (I'm just asking as some have raised that as a concern, and I don't know if that's legitimate or not)

Here's a test somebody performed on Reddit. While not 100% the same mechanics, it illustrates how lack of opposition affects how a post is perceived.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/sdcsx3/testing_reddits_new_block_feature_and_its_effects/

The problem isn't about moderation, the problem is with moving the Overton window, as neutral parties start seeing a lack of viewpoints from one side of the discussion, and viewpoints from the other side getting upvoted and significantly more visibility.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We can agree to disagree. I don't want to see any policing of an Overton window on Lemmy. I just want hate speech and credibly malicious actors removed

[–] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Your hate speech is somebody else's Overton window

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

There are hundreds of legal documents from around the world (with a fair amount of consistency) that we could use to define hate speech with legal precision. Overton window is a political concept a few decades old that is not without its criticism. "It's all relative" doesn't meaningfully apply here.

Hearing your thoughts has given me ideas on how personal characteristics relate to a preference of leaning in favour of removing content over protecting free speech. So, I appreciate the dialogue. You might enjoy this related paper: https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2210666120