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This is the sort of echo-chamber romanticism you can expect in miniature silos. Fostering meaningful heartfelt individual conversations, person-to-person relationships, and small communities was never the intention. Its first-order focus has always been about a singular aggregated place for links on topics of interest, voted on by the followers of a tag/community, and sometimes spawning interesting discussions about those links in a peer-voted manner. Kbin and lemmy are both "aggregators", like Reddit, not "social networks" or "forums". [Edit: ability is not the same as intention]
Subscribing to hundreds of forums and RSS feeds with slightly different foci just to try to find the actual interesting stories, in most peoples opinions given Reddit and Diggs success, was decidedly not the "best" experience.
No one is preventing you from using things how you want, to seek our miniature echo-chambers so that your personal voice can be louder, but it is hardly the appropriate response to espouse how "great" microcosms are when someone is asking about how to better aggregate in a... checks notes... a "content aggregation" system.
Fascinating that you feel like having discussions with orher people is tantamount to being in an echo chamber.
Here's the thing, Lemmy isn't a content aggregator. Lemmy-UI is, but Lemmy-UI is not the only front end to Lemmy. LemmyBB also exists, and it gives you a front end that looks like a phpBB forum. The API also let's people make other front ends, to suggest other uses as well.
Lemmy is just an ActivityPub user and group manager. There are lots of AP groups out there. Friendica, which looks like Facebook, uses them for their "forums" , and you can follow Friendica forums from Lemmy. Importantly, you can also follow Lemmy communities from Friendica, where they're indistinguishable from a Friendica forum. You can also follow chirp.social and a.gu.pe groups on here, which are third party groups for Mastodon and other Fediverse microblogs. They're full of people just having microblogs discussion threads, without titles and everything.
Lemmy is however we use it. It's all just Fediverse down here. But if all you want is to aggregate links, what do you need comments and non-linking posts for? Just use Pocket.
I like how you stated that big platforms like Reddit encourage toxic behavior such as performative antagonism and biting sarcasm, and then someone immediately shows up to defend big platforms by using performative antagonism and biting sarcasm.
I'm quite glad that you find missing the entire point fascinating.
Yes, I concede that you're right. You can certainly use lemmy/kbin only as a forum. You could certainly use Reddit as your "chat" platform too.
My entire point was that this person asked a question about trying to aggregate content; your toxic response was instead to talk about how terrible wanting that is and that they should just not want the thing that they were happy with. This is the type of high-quality "discussions" one can expect to bubble to the top in these silos.
Oh, if that was your point, then maybe you should have actually, I don't know, articulated it instead of waxing bitterly about "echo chambers" like someone who's never attended a party where they haven't been asked to leave.
An active community with a manageable number of people in it won't actually surface less content, it will just bury less of it, because people are only able to take in so much at a time. The only things a larger number of smaller communities does is make you aware of how much you might actually miss in a large, monolithic space.
That's not feeling a loss of meaningful content aggregation, that's just FOMO.
And you know, reading the top 10 posts in a subreddit that gets thousands of them a day doesn't make you well informed, and being the person in the room everyone else regrets meeting doesn't make you intelligent. Being a chronic assholes only correlates with being unhappy.
At the end of the day, social media is entertainment and socialization, not education. If you want to actually be informed about shit, go back to college and start reading academic and trade journals.
Not to be diminutive to your point, but reddit discussion weren't high quality either and I have a feeling they won't be here too. They might be friendlier on here, written more 'eloquently' to give them a sheen of informedness, but unless people start from similar knowledge bases on topics, then meaningful discussion will never materialize.
I predict any technical/political topic on here will be a dumpsterfire of uninformedness just like it was on reddit. You can already see reddit-tier responses to popular topics. In the end the same few talking points will be repeated over and over again, right or wrong (mostly wrong or incomplete).
It's why I personally stay away from these completely and stick to sharing art/game stuff. It's far more sane.