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wanted: e-mail provider that supplies onion email addresses and allows users to use them on clearnet (sopuli.xyz)
submitted 6 months ago by freedomPusher@sopuli.xyz to c/privacy@links.hackliberty.org
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cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/12515826

I’m looking for an email service that issues email addresses with an onion variant. E.g. so users can send a message with headers like this:

From: replyIfYouCan@hi3ftg6fgasaquw6c3itzif4lc2upj5fanccoctd5p7xrgrsq7wjnoqd.onion  
To: someoneElse@clearnet_addy.com

I wonder if any servers in the onionmail.info pool of providers can do this. Many of them have VMAT, which converts onion email addresses to clearnet addresses (not what I want). The docs are vague. They say how to enable VMAT (which is enabled by default anyway), and neglect to mention how to disable VMAT. Is it even possible to disable VMAT? Or is there a server which does not implement VMAT, which would send msgs to clearnet users that have onion FROM addresses?

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[–] mark@infosec.pub 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Maybe i need to further clarify that none of this is in the email RFC. Email is very old. These are new standards that everyone has agreed to on top of the RFC

[–] freedomPusher@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

I’m not surprised. Google took an anti-RFC posture when they broke email and brought in their own rules under the guise of anti-spam (the real reason is domination). The whole point of RFCs existence is interoperability. That was broken when servers reject RFC-compliant messages.

I’m not interested in bending over backwards to accommodate. Satisfying Google’s dkim reqs requires the server admin to solve a CAPTCHA. That’s a line I personally will not cross. So at the moment I simply do not email gmail users (or MS Outlook users, same problem).