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A week of downtime and all the servers were recovered only because the customer had a proper disaster recovery protocol and held backups somewhere else, otherwise Google deleted the backups too

Google cloud ceo says "it won't happen anymore", it's insane that there's the possibility of "instant delete everything"

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[–] allywilson@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why do you think it's invasive? How do you quantify which providers are less invasive?

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Google is one of the most privacy invasive companies in the world. And judging by encryption standards, terms of service and privacy policies

[–] settoloki@lemmy.one 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure you've not just read bad stuff without verification on the internet and feel the need to chime in on something you don't fully understand?

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. I read Google's policies many times.

[–] settoloki@lemmy.one 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Me too as a programmer that uses Google cloud to store government information. Which bit of the policy says they are going to access your data, shouldn't take you long to link it to me if you read them as much as you say. Unless what you're actually doing is spreading misinformation and bullshit.

[–] ReversalHatchery 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'm not the one who you were responding to, but considering google's history, I don't believe anything they claim, because they have lied so many times in the past, and because every "privacy guarantee" they provide is practically unprovable. It's nothing more than wishful thinking to think that google does nothing with government data stored with them, with google classroom data of millions of children, and others. They have shown that they can't be trusted.

[–] settoloki@lemmy.one 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If they lied about this and are accessing very confidential information I think my company would sue the giblets off Google.

You need to remember we are talking about Google Cloud, the enterprise services they offer and not Gmail and search engines.

[–] ReversalHatchery 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I only have one question: how will your company find out?

[–] settoloki@lemmy.one 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Same way companies know they've been hacked. I'm making the assumption you're non technical, given the question. But there are many ways such as access logs, server monitoring etc

[–] ReversalHatchery 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But there are many ways such as access logs, server monitoring etc

Which are all in the control of the company running the servers. If we trust the company, we can trust them giving honest information on these, but if we don't trust the company.. they could just redact logs or even straight out fake them

[–] settoloki@lemmy.one 1 points 6 months ago

I think you live in a fantasy world fella. Also server monitoring isn't done by Google, it's don't by another 3rd party company.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

b2b and audited security standards are a whole different thing - you deal with finance and health you’ve gotta prove to a 3rd party over and over that you have controls and technology in place to make sure you aren’t lying

this isn’t consumer BS

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

This. Even if by some miracle Google isn't accessing everything on corporate cloud, it is an evil company and the policy can change. It's a very untrustworthy and unreliable base for a business. And I'm not even talking about the fact that businesses that pay for the cloud are financially supporting Google

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 6 months ago

and you know the security standards that are achievable on google cloud entirely negate your point right? their cloud offering is a totally different beast