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I spent thr last 10 minutes reading the flutter docs, and I have no fucking idea what it is, what language it is written in, or generally anything useful about it. I think we'll be fine.
Also, Google's contributions to Python are mostly obsolete. optparse was replaced by argparse which is .mostly replaced by click. Yapf was never successful and black has taken a commanding lead. Python will be just fine.
If you couldn't figure out what flutter is in 10 minutes that reflects poorly on you much more than anything else.
Flutter uses dart. It's one of the best ui building frameworks I have used. Not that it is perfect...
Flutter - the framework - is great. Dart as a language is tolerable - lot of ugly boilerplate, manual codegen, and things you can't quite express correctly are everywhere, but if you're not too much of a stickler, Flutter is still worth it (at least until Compose Multiplatform matures - if ever).
Yeah totally agree. I can give it credit for being adapted for better accommodating flutter, but it has extremely many things where it does not come across as modern
I would say it's not as good as really great languages like Rust, but it's much nicer than Python or JavaScript. I would say it's nicer than Typescript too. Typescript has a better type system but it's held back by JavaScript.
I just hate reading it. I wish it looked more like Kotlin and less like JavaScript 😭
It’s the carcinisation of programming languages. Everything evolves into JavaScript.
Though let’s be real, even JavaScript evolves into Lisp.
I typed in "python flutter" into Google and clicked on the first link. The first pictures shows a bit of code and a simple window with two buttons. I go back to the code and skim it. It defines the buttons. How you cannot deduce from that, that this library makes UI says a lot about you.
I also think your assumption that click replaced argparse is wrong. Click heavily relies on decorators which makes separation of functional code and command line interface code either impossible or difficult. If you only care about your one program that is fine, but it does make your code not very reusable.
Flutter has nothing to do with Python as it's a JavaScript library, so if looks like we're in the same boat.