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[–] catch22@startrek.website 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago

I mean to be clear I’m fully on board with rapid decarbonization. But when you get the facts wrong in this way, you give fuel for idiots like Ron Paul, and fill people with a paralyzing pessimism that makes change less, and not more likely. There is also research to support this point—climate optimists are more likely to take action rather than doom scrolling on Twitter or whatever.

[–] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

It's not 'for nothing'. So-called "net zero" policies are incredibly costly to implement (not to mention completely unattainable). These policies (that aren't voted on and pushed by global special interest groups) inflict great harm on the economy and food availability.

Attacking farmers is never the right answer. Imagine attacking your own food supply. How pathetic.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 5 points 6 months ago

Attacking farmers is never the right answer. Imagine attacking your own food supply. How pathetic.

My country produces enough food for our own population eight-fold. So fuck the 7/8 farmers that are fucking our environment over for a dollar.

[–] catch22@startrek.website 3 points 6 months ago

Indeed, trickle down environmental improvements will come guided by the invisible hand of the market.

And you're completely right, food supply should be protected. Maybe programmes to plant wild vegetation such as well suited local produce everywhere instead of bare concrete and wasteland could help, not only food supply but also the environment.

But then that would effect farming profitability, so that of course is too idealistic and not viable... I wish I was as clever as you.

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