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Recently been painting up Forest Dragon's Warmaster miniatures scaled to 15mm for custom scaled Frostgrave and Oathmark, and wanted to try out Army Painter's new 2.0 speedpaints, and I've been pleasantly surprised by the results! They dry a bit faster than I'd like, to the point of drying on-brush, but other than that, no complaints.
Still needs basing!
Honestly, I wasn't impressed by the first round of speed paints, the original formula, because they had a tendency to smear and reactivate. This second round though, I'm very happy with. The 2.0 formula completely fixed the reactivation and slow drying issue, but as a result, the paint dries extremely fast. For 15mm, since you're using much less paint, this does mean that you get little working time and have to be generous with your amount of paint, but very careful in application (so pooling goes where you want it to go).
Compared to contrast paints, which have been my go-to, its hard to pick one over the other. I really like the consistency of the AP 2.0 paints. They flow well, and more importantly, all the paints I've tried flow the same as one another. The paints also dry more consistently, and streak much less. Citadel contrast paints, however, probably have better, well, contrast, and some colors, like skeleton hode, create much more unique color shifts from recesses to highlights; AP2.0 pallid bone or bony matter, for instance, feel more translucent and the colour shift more one-tone.
In general AP2.0 is more translucent though, and it takes multiple coats mucn better, and you need multiple coats more often. As a result, their paints also doesn't separate nearly as bad as Citadel contrast paints, which have a habit of completely separating in only a few days of being unused.
Altogether, I prefer some handful of colors from Citadel and the options for more advanced painting methods and styles, and I prefer a lot of the "just sit down and paint" usability of AP2.0, not to mention the lower cost and color selection. If someone told me to pick only one to suggest to a newcomer that wants a lot of colors to start with, I'd probably recommend the AP2.0 mega or complete set over any Citadel starter packs, but my real recommendation is to experiment with one or two of the AP2.0 paints, and see if your painting style fits the worktime and scale limitations.
If you're a more advanced painter, you'd likely want to use Citadel contrast and more "normal" paints because of how limiting AP2.0 can be, even if the results out of the box are very, very good. Better yet, use both in different circumstances when one works better than the other!
Thanks, that's very helpful! I quite enjoy having the contrast paints available to me (been painting for years off and on) and I heard the same things about the original AP speedpaints that you're saying. I have a bunch of both vallejo and citadel contrasts and I like them both, but they're quite different. Was just wondering if adding some AP speedpaints would be worth it. Though it sounds like they might not be for me. I particularly like to use the contrast paints for wet blending, but if they dry so quickly that doesn't sound like it'd be a good fit.
Thanks!