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Why don't people here love SimpleXChat more? (simplex.chat)

submitted 7 months ago by SolarPunker@slrpnk.net to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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SimpleX Chat is an instant messenger that is decentralized and doesn't depend on any unique identifiers such as phone numbers or usernames. Users of SimpleX Chat can scan a QR code or click an invite link to participate in group conversations.

-privacyguides.org

It's clearly proving to be the most innovative technology when it comes to decentralized communication, in my opinion.

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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 89 points 7 months ago (4 children)

SimpleX Chat Ltd is a seed stage startup with a lot of user growth in 2022-2023, and a lot of exciting technical and product problems to solve to grow faster.

Run by a VC funded for-profit company. That really should tell you all you need to know. Sorry, but no thanks.

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Upvoted bc VC eventually means enshittifiication. But with xz getting back-doored recently, what is the middle ground that keeps these things sustainable financially and operationally?

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it’ll be governments partially funding it. If Schleswig-Holstein’s attempt is anything to go by, it might be a way

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But do we trust entities that depend on our governments for funding? It could be argued that they’re fundamentally compromised.

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

You have 4 basic options for funding:

-you rely on individual donations which doesn’t bring in enough money

-you force people to pay for it, which makes it less attractive when compared to traditional software, and makes much of the community pissy

-you rely on corporate money

-you rely on government money

None is perfect, but some amount of government funding (let’s say, 10% of what they would pay Microsoft for the equivalent software) might make sense

[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I did not know it was run by a VC funded company. Isn’t it open source and audited though? https://simplex.chat/blog/20221108-simplex-chat-v4.2-security-audit-new-website.html

Either way, if one needs to communicate without the use of identifiers like a phone number (afaik signal requires one) I trust Session. SimpleX features cool new tech but let’s wait until it matures

[–] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

AFAIK it is audited, and its threat model is rather extreme, like there is no unequivocally binding id, you can give every contact a different id

They talk about for profit/no profit in their last blog entry
https://simplex.chat/blog/20240323-simplex-network-privacy-non-profit-v5-6-quantum-resistant-e2e-encryption-simple-migration.html

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

Thanks, I just uninstalled it lol.

[–] LemmyHead@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Why should that be an issue? It's fully open source

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 months ago

Oh, my sweet sweet summer child... I have bad news for you 😆