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[–] raoulraoul@midwest.social 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Whoa, whoa, whoa. The ACLU betrayed no one, pardner. If 1^st^ Amendment rights go ignored, despicable as the rhetoric may seem, we become the fascists we fight against. Please don't let zealotry cloud your better judgement.

That said, nowhere is it written that free speech precludes lawful rebuttal.


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[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 7 months ago

I have to, unfortunately, disagree. Free speech is not without bounds. They fell for the Paradox of Tolerance trap. Nazi ideology is explicitly inciting hate, violence, and genocide. By defending them, the ACLU helped to keep these ideologies alive and able to metastisize. It was a betrayal of humanity.

I do believe that everyone deserves a free trial and representation. Using the ACLU to defend Nazis and Kluckers was a mistake that is causing harm to this day.

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Or I just punch the Nazi... I mean is it legal, who cares that is the moral responce to seeing a nazi to to do all I can to beat the snot out of them.

[–] Catastrophic235@midwest.social 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

How funny would it be if someone posted a fake threat to the Dachau-downsie's event, the feds show up as a result, and someone else convinces the Special-Staffel that the feds are woke and they get into some full-on Ruby Ridge type shit as a result.

[–] raoulraoul@midwest.social 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So glad the voice of reason prevails. 🙄

How is your behaviour any better than what you're fighting against? Hint: it isn't. The only thing that differs is the uniform.


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[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

I mean if you cant figure out the difrence between Punching a racist who wants to opress people ... and the person wanting to opress people, that is not my problem, that is your problem, and I hope very much some day your moral compas is able to tell the difrence between the 2