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LoglineA distress call from Lt. Noonien-Singh compels Spock to disobey orders and take the USS Enterprise and its crew into disputed space, risking renewed hostilities with the Klingons in a bid to aid their shipmate.

Written by Henry Alonso Myers & Akiva Goldsman

Directed by Chris Fisher


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[–] JJMcGee83@startrek.website 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm so happy to have SNW back. Whoever decided to put Carol Kane in the show needs to get a raise; she is absolutely spectacular. I'm very curious to see where her character goes.

I enjoy the idea of Spock being more emotional it really puts it into perspective that Vulcans have emotions they just try to keep them under lock and key and Spock being half human is having a harder time with that compared to most Vulcans is... relatable.

I did not like weird green super power drug that Chapel and M'Benga took to fight the the Klingons. It came from no where, the shot on the eyes right out of Dread made me think it was literally Slo-Mo from that movie. It really wasn't necessary, they could have just grabbed phasers somewhere instead.

I'm not realy sure how I feel about them using the term false flag in Star Trek. The plot makes sense but still it's a very charged term today.

[–] sarahcanary@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago

Yes, what was up with the green stuff?? I thought maybe I missed something from last season and kept watching thinking I'd remember but... Nope. I was half expecting them to get time-accelerated like in TOST Wink of an Eye episode, so they could just zip past all the Klingons.

[–] abba2566@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, the drug scene didn't feel great to me, they literally could have just found phasers or found a cleverer way around it.

I was wondering if you could explain the issue with the term 'false flag?' As far as I was aware, it's when party A carries out an action and tries to frame party B for it - which was exactly what was happening here.

[–] JJMcGee83@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was trying to figure out how to explain it succinctly and found this link which does a way better job than I could have: https://www.adl.org/glossary/false-flag

[–] abba2566@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah, I understand your comment better. I am still not sure it's enough to turn it (generally) into a no-go term. Plenty of news outlets have been commenting on Russian false flags against Ukraine and that's used more in the context of how it's used in this episode.

[–] MikeyMongol@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago

Also, doesn't the term date back to the Age of Sail? And TOS was explicitly supposed to be Horatio Hornblower in Space. It makes sense thematically to use nautical terms.

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I enjoyed her in Gotham & Kimmy Schmidt.

[–] Tech42@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

That green drug was basically Underdog's super energy pill. An unnecessary 'pocket frannistan' solution to the problem of escaping the Klingons.