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Radicle: Open-Source, Peer-to-Peer, GitHub Alternative (andrew.masto.host)
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Radicle: Open-Source, Peer-to-Peer, GitHub Alternative
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[–] hunger@programming.dev 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Serious question: What is the point?

Just push into half a dozen mirrors and you are pretty censorship resident without the crypto voodoo put on top of git.

Github has one huge value: Discoverability of a project. This is even worse than hiding your project in one of the smaller forges... nobody can remember the mess of letters you need for this.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Do you think it's good that the majority of code is hosted on a proprietary service? Do you think it's good that that service is centralised? Do you think it's good that if you want to provide an alternative to that service, you create another island with a different ecosystem that cannot communicate with the other island?

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[–] hunger@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

No, I would prefer a world where not everything is concentrated on github, but that is the world we have to work with:-)

But how does this address any of the problems you brought up?

Do you think a project will be more discoverable when you say: "Clone foo/bar from github" or when you say "install this strange crypto-BS, then clone rad:xyhdhsjsjshhhfuejthhh just like you normally would"?

Apart from discoverability you get a known workflow for contributors, a CI and a bug tracker. Coincidently those make it hard for projects to switch away from github... how does this address any of that? "Use this workflow, which is even wierder than any of the other github alternatives!" and "just set up a server yourself"?

Sorry, this is just yet another crypto-bro solution in search of a problem. Technically interesting, I'm give you that, but useless.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, I would prefer a world where not everything is concentrated on github, but that is the world we have to work with:-)

Then how do you not see the point of a distributed sourceforge?

But how does this address any of the problems you brought up?

Have you read the webpage? radicle is opensource, it's distributed and thus many interconnected islands, just like the fediverse. Why are you on the fediverse and not on reddit?

Do you think a project will be more discoverable when you say: “Clone foo/bar from github” or when you say “install this strange crypto-BS, then clone rad:xyhdhsjsjshhhfuejthhh just like you normally would”?

Again, have you even opened the webpage?

Sorry, this is just yet another crypto-bro solution in search of a problem.

So github is not a problem? And regarding crypto, show me where in the code it forces you to use crypto. Show me the rad command that inhibits you from doing a normal git operation by bringing up crypto.

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[–] hunger@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Then how do you not see the point of a distributed sourceforge?

But this is no forge, it is just a git repo.

Again, have you even opened the webpage?

Yeap, I even put a repo into it. That's why I am so certain that it is useless.

Hosting a git repo is not a problem. Having an discoverable forge is. And this does not help with that in any way.

So github is not a problem?

Something can not be a solution independent of whether or not something else is another problem or not.

And regarding crypto, show me where in the code it forces you to use crypto. Show me the rad command that inhibits you from doing a normal git operation by bringing up crypto.

There is lots of needless crypto(graphy) going on all over the place. It is entirely useless for code hosting in a git repo.

[–] _sora@mast.lat 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@onlinepersona @hunger have you tried hosting your own git repo? I never thought I'd live to see git, of all things, being considered "proprietary service". Also Hunger suggested using more than one server, which means it's not completely centralized.
There's really no meed for p2p crypto magic here, git just works

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if you're making a bad faith argument or genuinely didn't understand I was referencing github.

Also, where is the crypto magic? The website doesn't mention crypto at all...

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[–] bl4kers@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Also, where is the crypto magic?

The sixth point in the original comment links to the cryptocurrency association.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

So there's nothing in the code about crypto then?

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