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After the (temporary) defederation announcement of earlier i checked the Lemmy repo to see if there was already a ticket on the federation limiting option like Mastodon's that people mentioned Lemmy doesn't yet have. Not only i didn't find it, i also saw that there's about 200+ open tickets of variable importance. Also saw that it's maintained mostly by the two main devs, the difference in commits between them and even the next contributors is vast. This is normal and in other circumstances it'd grow organically, but considering the huge influx of users lately, which will likely take months to slow down, they just don't have the same time to invest on this, and many things risk being neglected. I'm a sysadmin, haven't coded anything big in at least a decade and a half beyond small helper scripts in Bash or Python, and haven't ever touched Rust, so can't help there, but maybe some of you Rust aficionados can give some time to help essentially all of Lemmy. The same can be said of Kbin of course, although that's PHP, and there is exacerbated by it being just the single dev.

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[–] SuitedUpDev@feddit.nl 15 points 1 year ago (11 children)

One of the first things I did when I learned about Lemmy and joined an instance is see if I could contribute in some way, shape or form.

But unfortunately it's written in Rust, a language in which I have 0 experience and 0 knowledge. :(

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

0 experience and 0 knowledge so far, right? :)

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

That's the point where you can make more and faster progress than any other!

[–] SuitedUpDev@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

Hahah.... Shit, now you got me intrigued... xD

[–] greybeard@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you are familiar with programming in general, you should be able to use those skills in Rust. Also, there is front end developing to do. I haven't looked into what tool kits they use for the front end, but I imagine CSS, HTML, and JavaScript/TypeScript knowledge would be useful.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, of course you can learn a new language. But it's only moderately helpful for a FOSS project for random people who don't really know the language and really don't know the project to just dip their toes in and commit something.

Often this causes more work that it helps.

[–] greybeard@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with you on driveby PRs don't help much at all. And I'm not going to pretend I'm going to sink the time required to understand how lemmy works and give quality PRs, and I don't expect you to either. I just wanted to say, don't let the language be what stops you.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

True that. I just meant, if you are really good in that language, a driveby PR might at least be mildly useful, while if I as a Java dev start messing with a project in a language I don't know, chances are pretty low that I'll be able to produce something worthwhile.

[–] SuitedUpDev@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

On the frontend, it's primarily React and Bootstrap. I do have some experience with React (with TypeScript), so that's good! And Bootstrap, that has been a few years....

[–] ollien 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even as someone with Rust experience, I found the experience of attempting to add a change to be frustrating. Aside from the fact that there's quite a bit of unidiomatic Rust (which I can't be too mad about, but does mean there are a lot of function signatures that just aren't what I'd expect and caused me some pain), the compile times for even small changes are long. After just changing a struct initializer, running cargo check took nearly a full minute, due to all the dependencies between the crates.

[–] nachof@feddit.cl 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Always a good opportunity to learn something new.

[–] SuitedUpDev@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Haha that is true..... 🤔

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's really the best language right now for a lot of things. It's not easy to learn but once you start to get parts of it, it's a great feeling.

It's sadly complicated and that's the only problem with it. If it was less complex it would take over everything because it's just so much better.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 9 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately the complexity is what makes it so good. I don't know how you could make it simpler but remain just as powerful

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