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[โ€“] ReCursing@kbin.social 34 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Nickelback. I mean they're not good but they're not really bad either, just a complete nonevent. They don't deserve the hate they get, they don't really deserve anything

[โ€“] 0ops@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, most of the hate is because they were super overplayed for a solid decade. For years the popular radio stations in my area didn't seem to play anything but Nickelback, green day, Lady Gaga, and pink. In a vacuum, they're fine. "How you remind me" is pretty good imo. I don't care for anything else from them. I've heard that their guitar player is actually really talented, but I haven't listened to them enough to know myself

[โ€“] Susaga@ttrpg.network 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah, the common paradox. Nobody wants to listen to Nickelback because it's overplayed, and nobody drives in New York because of all the traffic.

[โ€“] TruthAintEasy@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

I dont want to listen to them because there is nearly infinite better music than the overproduced boring stuff. Some tunes are catchy, even seen them live once because my mom wanted company, but they are mid at best imo

[โ€“] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago

"All the right reasons" is a solid album by them. Nothing groundbreaking or unique in terms of sound but it's an enjoyable listen.

[โ€“] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Oh, boy, they most certainly deserve the hate. This article sums it up pretty well: https://www.grunge.com/51980/nickelback-became-hated-band-music-industry/

[โ€“] Susaga@ttrpg.network 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Holy fuck, that article is elitist. Half of the sections seem pointlessly mean, like they're trying to dunk on them to win popularity points. One of them is just insulting Chad Kroeger for marrying Avril Lavigne, as if a 10+ year marriage is a bad thing. Some valid points buried in there, but the credibility is lost.

[โ€“] HaywardT@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago

Another thing that is hated for no reason. Age-gap relationships.

[โ€“] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Some valid points? Some? Well, yeah, there are some that probably could be omitted, but most stands strong.

Maybe I'm biased as I listen to more or less different genres, but there's nothing wrong on hating on Nickelback.

[โ€“] Susaga@ttrpg.network 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Why would you hate someone for making music you don't enjoy? Why hate someone for making money with a successful product? Why not just... Ignore them? You are under no obligation to like them, but there's only around three arguments in there to actually hate them. There are more arguments in that article that boil down to "it's successful, so it sucks" than valid criticism.

[โ€“] 0ops@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[โ€“] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Liking something is just a waste of time.

[โ€“] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Thanks I'm glad someone got it

[โ€“] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Being cool is so lame.

[โ€“] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy rock music (among others), but assholes like Nickelback are making terrible example of it. When someone asks me what I listen to and I reply "rock music" the person often reply along the lines of "ah, ok, like Nickelback?" And that's just disgusting.

I don't actively hate on them posting shit on the internet on my own or marching with antiNickelback sign in RL, but when someone asks or when discussion revolves around, I tell him I hate the band.

Being successful musician has nothing to do with it. People like Kanye or Taylor Swift made way more money with their (IMO shitty) music, but I don't hate them as Nickelback. Because they (probably, or at least not that obviously) don't ruin the genre they perform in.

Edit: Half of what I want to say is probably lost in translation as English is not my native language, so I can't make all the nuances I would do in my language.

[โ€“] Susaga@ttrpg.network 2 points 10 months ago

First, this was never about your opinion. It was about an article that complained about music being used in advertising, songs being popular, and people being inspired by a band. That was the opinion you cited as a good reason to hate them.

Second, how often does that actually happen? Considering it's an internet meme to shit on them, how often do people cite Nickelback as their main example of rock ahead of, say, Nirvana?

Third, why is it disgusting that people mention a band you dislike? Can you not simply correct them and suggest the bands you ACTUALLY like? Does it have to be "hate" rather than "I'm not a fan"?

Fourth, how the hell did Nickelback ruin rock? Is rock so fragile that the Eagles can't be enjoyed because of "How you remind me" existing? There are bands far worse than Nickelback, but they aren't successful so you don't care. If Nickelback weren't as successful, you wouldn't care about them either.

[โ€“] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 10 months ago

No, makes sense to me.

[โ€“] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It is less "it's successful, so it sucks" and more "I keep having to listen to something I don't like, so now I hate it".

[โ€“] Susaga@ttrpg.network 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

...But you don't have to listen to it. If it's on the radio, change the station. The complaints in the article were WAY too in depth for a casual listener to make.

[โ€“] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That assumes you have control of the radio station or whatever songs are being played. It isn't like that for a lot of people.

[โ€“] Susaga@ttrpg.network 2 points 10 months ago

Scenario 1: It's your radio. Turn to a different station.
Scenario 2: It's a friend's radio. Ask them to turn to a different station.
Scenario 3: It's a public radio. Just zone out for three minutes.

And on the subject of not getting to choose the songs, what station is choosing to play 20 year old songs by a band it's a meme to hate?