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@infosecpub testing posting from #mastodon

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[–] shellsharks@infosec.exchange 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@infosecpub Alright so that works. Just @[community]@[lemmy server] with the first line being the title some new lines and then the body. As you might expect, it posts from my mastodon handle.

Attempting to "reply" to this post sends infosec.pub into a long spin. Not sure if that's just an instance issue or if responding to a Mastodon-originated post on my Lemmy account is causing the issue.

Let's see what happens when I reply to this post via Mastodon...

[–] shellsharks@infosec.exchange 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@infosecpub So that *immediately* propagated the reply TO the infosec.pub post. COOL! Replying to the post within Lemmy still seems to be struggling though...

[–] AGTMADCAT@infosec.exchange 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@shellsharks @infosecpub Test test

When I tried replying from Lemmy (using Jerboa) I just got a "language_not_allowed" error and it didn't work.

[–] sass@mastodon.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@AGTMADCAT @shellsharks @infosecpub

Yeah it's weird, it's like a post originating from Mastodon can be interacted with from Mastodon but natively within Lemmy it is borked.

[–] AGTMADCAT@infosec.exchange 1 points 1 year ago

@sass @shellsharks @infosecpub This is the best bug and I love it.

[–] sass@mastodon.social 2 points 1 year ago

@shellsharks @infosecpub let's try replying to this post from a different account...

[–] shellsharks@infosec.exchange 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@infosecpub So for people who want to interact with #Lemmy from your existing #mastodon identity, it looks like you have some decent options. What's interesting is this worked from my infosec.exchange account but when trying to post directly to infosec.pub from my mastodon.social account, it did not work. Could be a mastodon.social issue?

- Replying to it from a different account DID work in adding a reply to the infosec.pub post.

@jerry - fascinating behavior(s) here...

[–] shellsharks@infosec.exchange 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@infosecpub Seems like a potential usability disaster imo. If people wise up to the ability to post to Lemmy instances (or infosec.pub specifically if the issue is isolated to that instance) from Mastodon than anyone who's using Lemmy natively won't be able to interact with that post. There's no way of really easily seeing that it is of Mastodon origin outside inspecting the OP's user info (which will denote I came from infosec.exchange). You can, as the OP respond to reply threads but for standard reply-ee's you can only see/respond to the reply threads you started.

For those who don't want to have separate identities across all these Fediverse services I can see the attraction of the cross-posting from Mastodon--> Lemmy but this is def an issue.

@jerry not sure if this is something tweakable on the Lemmy server either fixing the ability to respond to Mastodon-originated posts within Lemmy or disabling the ability to do this from Mastodon completely until it is sorted out by the Lemmy devs.

[–] jerry@infosec.exchange 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@shellsharks @infosecpub sadly, there are no such options in lemmy or mastodon

[–] shellsharks@infosec.exchange 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@jerry @infosecpub

@lemmyworld‬ users seem to be able to do this. Not sure how much effort you feel like putting into infosec.pub but enabling the ability to reply from Lemmy to mastodon originated posts seems huge.

Haven’t tried all of this with #kbin / #fedia yet so stay tuned…

[–] jerry@infosec.exchange 1 points 1 year ago

@shellsharks @infosecpub @lemmyworld I will look into it, but there are quite literally no options to either enable or block this in lemmy.

[–] shellsharks@infosec.exchange 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@infosecpub

One last funny thing I noticed (then I swear I'm done testing this for now), when you upvote a post on Lemmy (which still works despite replies being borked), it propagates to Mastodon as a star. How whimsical!

Oh and deletes propagate (mastodon->lemmy) which is cool.

[–] shellsharks@infosec.exchange 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@infosecpub so I can find someones Lemmy handle, search them on Mastodon, find their posts, then reply to those posts IN mastodon and it will reply natively within Lemmy.

Further, I can search for a Lemmy COMMUNITY in mastodon, browse posts and replies and respond to those as well natively within Mastodon. So a full-featured Lemmy browser could (seemingly) be built inside a Mastodon client. So interesting...

#lemmy #mastodon #fediversemigration @ivory @radiant @jknlsn

[–] jknlsn@hachyderm.io 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@shellsharks @infosecpub @ivory @radiant thanks for the tag, that's super interesting to know.

Not going to start implementing anything just yet, already plenty on the backlog haha, but will keep an eye on it!

[–] shellsharks@infosec.exchange 1 points 1 year ago

@jknlsn @infosecpub @radiant understandable, im sure you have your hands full as it is. With the reddit meltdown and exploding interest in projects like #lemmy, #kbin, etc... I see a good opportunity for devs like yourself to capitalize on that interest and develop either a native kbin/lemmy app or even add some functionality directly within a Mastodon app considering the compatibilities between these services thanks to #activitypub. Excited to see it all play out!

[–] aemaeth@infosec.exchange 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@shellsharks @infosecpub @ivory @radiant @jknlsn
Have you done any testing with PixelFed yet? I think it should have a very similar interaction...

[–] shellsharks@infosec.exchange 1 points 1 year ago

@aemaeth @infosecpub

I haven't done any testing with pixelfed yet. Creating an account is on my list of things to do though. Testing would likely come sometime after that.

[–] CodingAndCoffee@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@shellsharks @infosecpub @ivory @radiant @jknlsn One issue I see is that the opengraph tags on lemmy need expanded upon a bit, especially in the case of embedded image content like most of the top-level posts on https://lemmy.ml/c/memes

( see https://mastodon.social/@memes@lemmy.ml for how it currently displays )

[–] sass@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago

@shellsharks @infosecpub One last funny thing I noticed (then I swear I'm done testing this for now), when you upvote a post on Lemmy (which still works despite replies being borked), it propagates to Mastodon as a star. How whimsical!