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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 23 points 9 months ago (4 children)

America will never allow this war to end.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 63 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You know who has total power to end this war? Putin. Just get the fuck out of Ukraine and it’s over.

There’s really nothing to negotiate.

[–] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They literally were negotiating at the start of the war for this exact outcome: Russia pulls out and Ukraine maintains neutrality.

Johnson threw a wrench in those plans.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry what? You’re blaming Boris Johnson for this now?

One person has the power to put an end to this: the person who started it. Putin.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago

I've seen this Boris Johnson argument several times on here and never once seen anything even remotely approaching a convincing explanation of what leverage Boris ever had to do this. Like a deal for a white peace with Russia was on the table and Boris somehow twisted Zelenskyy's arm into fighting by threatening to not send weapons that wouldn't be necessary if there was peace anyway?

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 9 months ago

or because all putin has to do is stop invading ukraine. he doesn't get to invade and then negotiate to keep part of the place he invaded

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 28 points 9 months ago

I think that if Russia got the fuck out of Ukraine, we'd happily let the war end.

[–] Doesntpostmuch@possumpat.io 27 points 9 months ago

Bad take. Why negotiate with an aggressor who is literally invading and trying to absorb a neighbor. You would be rewarding that behavior and Russia gets to stop their unpopular war at the same time.