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[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 84 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The scam company brave? The one that scams people? With their scam based crypto rewards that don't pay out? THAT brave?

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 81 points 9 months ago (4 children)

There's no reason to hate Brave unless you have a political bias against their CEO.

Besides in 2016, when Brave promised to remove banner ads from websites and replace them with their own, basically trying to extract money directly from websites without the consent of their owners

And when the CEO unilaterally added a fringe, pay-to-win Wikipedia clone into the default search engine list.

And in 2018, Tom Scott and other creators noticed Brave was soliciting donations in their names without their knowledge or consent.

And in 2020, when Brave got caught injecting URLs with affiliate codes when users tried browsing to various websites.

Also in 2020, when they silently started injecting ads into their home page backgrounds, pocketing the revenue. There was a lot of pushback: "the sponsored backgrounds give a bad first impression." Further requests were ignored (immediately closed)

And in 2022, when Brave floated the idea of further discouraging users from disabling sponsored messages.

And in 2023, when Brave got caught installing a paid VPN service on users' computers without their consent.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I had a small mountain of BAT they locked me out of due to shoddy linking with their banking affiliates and out of date DRM practices locking me out of my account due to too many devices being logged in (each OS update counted as its own device).

I noticed you didn't have that linked, that's because not every shitty move a company makes gets news coverage. Sorry I don't fit into your narrow view on what constitutes a valid reason.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If there's something interesting to add to the list, I'm curious. Brave did partner with a criminal organization currently under a $1.1 billion lawsuit, but I don't have enough information about your particular case.

Did the software lock you out or did their servers? Was this reported on anywhere?

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 3 points 9 months ago

The banking backend that grifted me is called uphold and at the time that was the ONLY way to move BAT out of their wallet.

The device limit was a known issue for years and I left before they fixed it.

While I was still a user I would try their forum for support. Big shocker, LOTS of other users had the same issue and reports got ignored or muted by the mods there.

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 3 points 9 months ago

This made me wonder - is there any active Best Of community on any instance? This would be a perfect candidate.

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

You can dig as much shit on Mozilla. Every big browser company right now is shitty

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

We really need a based privacy-first Chromium fork... something that

  • allows installing addons from a custom source
  • removes everything Google tracking related
  • adds good sync compatible with things like floccus
  • is hardened with switches like MS Edge
  • has a good UI like Firefox
  • restricts fingerprinting by randomizing or blocking many identifiers
[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Their strict protections literally broke sites. Just use noscript and ublock, works way better.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just don't use brave and things are better for me.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

These comments are rambling piles of garbage.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's great, but what do you think about brave and their cool scam group?

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They call themselves brave software incorporated.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And what sources do you have for these accusitions?

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My own experience over several years. You sound like you have a stick up your ass.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Okay this is not leading anywhere. Maybe just stop swearing around and address your wishes in their Discussion forum.

I dont think Brave is "the secure but also private browser solution" but Vanadium is not here yet

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is the word ass really insulting to you? If so I'm genuinely sorry.. But I think you're grasping at straws acting offended because I have a financial grievance with this company. that shouldn't bother you and it's concerning how much energy you're putting into this rebuttal.

I'm working class so whatever losses I felt from my dealings with brave mattered to me. I can't get that money back but I sure as **** can spend my time being loud about the consistently dishonest and shady practices of a company I used to do business with. Brave could have handled one of the dozen or so support tickets I gave them back in 2019-2022

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Okay so you lost money through their crypto stuff. Thats a valid point, but just ranting about it doesnt make that clear

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

I didn't lose money, they forced me through an untrustworthy third party to take my money out. You're being obstinate trying to make this seem like I made a bad investment as opposed to a company being deceitful about it's "payouts".