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Kbin.social has disabled federation temporarily. (kbin.social)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by lixus98 to c/technology
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Hello, you might have noticed (or not) that posts from kbin, more specifically kbin.social aren't showing anywhere, this is due the DDoS protection they currently have on. So even if you are subscribed to kbin.social communities you won't see any posts from the outside.

Same is happening inside kbin.social where users there cannot see posts from the outside. This is however temporary and the admin is working on getting federation back online.

~~The site is currently reporting 125k registered users~~

Edit: After a quick chat with the dev group it seems this number is just the total users discovered by this instance. The real amount of users is 22k as seen on https://kbin.social/nodeinfo/2.0

Edit: kbin.social is currently upgrading servers to handle the requests.

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[–] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I find it hard to believe there are 125,000 users on kbin...are we sure it isn't reporting stats from all the servers it's federated with (and therefore including Lemmy)?

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I too am curious how this number is generated. For an instance of 125k users, the interactions seem quite low. "Top" items are at the top of the list with 500-1000 upvotes... and only ~100 comments.

I would kind of expect a bit more.

[–] itty53@vlemmy.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

1 9 90 rule applies quite well, only a limited number of users ever interact with anything at all, and no one interacts with everything.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Okay... Let's take that 1 9 90 rule... 1% creators 9% interactors and 90% lurkers. So at 800 upvotes which is the upper end of the "Top" threads... we're expecting 8000 users. Not 125k.

It still doesn't line up.

[–] lixus98 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yup, I made a mistake, the real amount is 23k, you can see the edit in the post.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 5 points 2 years ago

you can see the edit in the post.

Well... I can't yet, since the edit hasn't federated it's way out to my instance yet... But I see it on the origin instance, so fair enough. 23k is much more believable and reasonable though. 125k just didn't sit right in my head for what I was seeing on the instance.

[–] Lockely@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago

Not every user is going to interact with every piece of content though

[–] JohannesOliver 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The stats page lists users it knows about, including Federated (see also: the People tab).

Local counts can be seen at: https://kbin.social/nodeinfo/2.0 - currently about 22k.

FediDB uses the nodeinfo for its stats gathering, but has a delay.

[–] aspseka@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So that's more like 23k now. Still impressive.

[–] JohannesOliver 1 points 2 years ago

Very, I think the only larger "Lemmy-like" instance is lemmy.ml.

[–] lixus98 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Is just reporting users on that instance, you can see fedia's (another kbin instance) here http://fedia.io/stats.

Edit: After a quick chat with the dev group it seems you are correct, it's just reporting the total users discovered

[–] JohannesOliver 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It is reporting users it knows about, which includes federated servers. The local stats can be seen at https://fedia.io/nodeinfo/2.0, under users.

[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

2123 total users

copied from that link for the lazy


{
	"version": "2.0",
	"software": {
		"name": "kbin",
		"version": "0.10.1"
	},
	"protocols": ["activitypub"],
	"usage": {
		"users": {
			"total": 2123,
			"activeHalfyear": 2123,
			"activeMonth": 2123
		},
		"localPosts": 179,
		"localComments": 854
	},
	"openRegistrations": true
}
[–] lixus98 3 points 2 years ago

You are correct, already edited the info, thank you for pointing it out.