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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] Devorlon@lemmy.zip 51 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Isn't it a benevolent dictatorship with Linus at the head?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 88 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Linus' power doesn't come from Ownership, but respect. Anyone can fork it and do what they want, but because Linus is respected, everyone else follows suit.

Anarchism would function in a similar manner, it wouldn't be a bunch of opinionated people doing whatever they want, but people generally listening to experts who don't actually hold systemic power.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Problem is that the average person cannot discern between an actual expert and a charlatan.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And yet Linux works fine. Not everyone needs to be a dev, devs can tell the difference between an expert and a charlatan.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I meant that as a reply to the second paragraph which generalised anarchism; including the non-Linux world.
I also disagree that this isn't an issue in the broader Linux community however. See for example the loud minority with an irrational hate against quite obviously good software projects like systemd who got those ideas from charlatans or "experts".

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

I know, I used Linux as an example. Just like not everyone needs to be a weatherman to trust weatherman that can recognize experts among themselves, so too can engineers recognize experts among themselves, and so forth.

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I would disagree and say it's more akin to a philosopher king hence less anarchy and more monarchy. It's all good until the king dies and let's see who succeeds them.

It will be most telling when Linus dies.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, a king's power derives from authority, not from the good will of its subjects

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

See and I see it more as in modern times where it's a simple figurehead.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

But a king must have power and authority, Linus just has influence and labor, thus expertise.

[–] pbpza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 10 months ago

You can fork it, sure Linus is very respected and his decisions are considered very important but you can fork it and change however you want so it's still compatible with Anarchism.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago

Free software doesn't have owners. If someone else did a better job of being the "benevolent dictator" of a fork of Linux, everyone would start using that fork. Arguably this is a more free-market system than non-free software.

[–] joshcodes@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] survivalmachine 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The article you link literally lists Linus under the referent candidates section.

[–] joshcodes@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So I did miss that Linus is in the article, but the reference to him says he was awarded the title, which makes it sound like an honour rather than a hierarchical system. I don't believe that he's ever been anything other than the projects owner/founder but I'm happy to learn if I'm wrong.

[–] survivalmachine 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that's just how open source works. Of course they always serve at the pleasure of the community, otherwise forks would happen. Nobody said otherwise. As the "Usage" section of that article implies, the "benevolent" bit comes from the feedback loop of a happy community supporting their dictator-for-life.

[–] joshcodes@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

I mean how the community refers to him. I've never read a thread where someone called Linus a BDFL, I have with python. If they do, they do. Just haven't seen it myself.

[–] Arfman@aussie.zone 1 points 10 months ago

I'm worried we're gonna have a situation like the death or Tito