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[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

People who genuinely think plant based diets are cruelty free and environmentally friendly don't know anything about modern agriculture.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

It's not perfect, but I think that statement is rather misleading. Problems with plant agriculture are multiplied by animal agriculture which relies on it even more to grow crops for feed. Counterintuitively plant-based diets use fewer crops and less cropland compared to animal agriculture due to not loosing energy from feed crops going to creatures who use that energy on their own body function

[–] SolarMech@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 months ago

You should assume that any consumption, if not proven otherwise, is not cruelty free and environmentally friendly. The most moral thing to do is to consume less, I guess.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just see the boiling hot greenhouses in the south of Spain. You can see it from space. All jam packed with discount African labour.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

And on the environmental side we have clearcutting thousands of acres of forest for farmland, destroying habitats for millions of animals, a continual extermination of many "pest" species for as long as the farm is operational, AND horrifically inefficient irrigation methods that drain the water table of all its juices.

I'll never say that mass agriculture is anywhere near as bad as mass animal husbandry for the environment, but the people we see around the world who act like there's no environmental impact are the ones who irk me.