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The fall of Firefox: Mozilla's once-popular web browser slides into irrelevance (www.zdnet.com)

submitted 10 months ago by ConstableJelly to c/technology

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Article seems pretty flawed. Relevance is a vague metric, and the author relies pretty heavily on data related to government site visitation, which seems subject to bias toward certain types of users.

Market share is likely still incredibly low, but Firefox's relevance should be spiking right now due to Google's shenanigans with Chromium. The fact that like 90% of revenue for its for-profit wing is from Google is still troubling.

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[–] rwhitisissle 212 points 10 months ago (38 children)

The day Firefox shutters its doors is the day the internet truly dies. Almost every "alternative" browser is chromium under the hood. Google's next big plan is basically constructing a walled garden around the internet (at least the HTTP part) via complex DRM. Eventually, if you want to access an actual web page, it'll have to be via a Chromium browser. Hell, even today a shitload of websites I visit on FF just don't fucking render correctly and I'll have to fire up a chromium instance just to access them. That's only going to get worse with time.

[–] azdle@news.idlestate.org 27 points 10 months ago (13 children)

The day Firefox shutters its doors is the day the internet truly dies.

*the web

The internet has so far been doing a much better job surviving as a proper decentralized system than the web.

[–] erwan@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Really? What's left of the Internet beyond the web?

How many people use Usenet today, rather than forums or social media on the web?

How many people use IRC, rather than Slack? (Either on the web or in a Chromium-backed desktop app)

How many people use an email client, rather than webmail?

[–] remington 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Back in the day I used IRC but prefer Signal and Matrix now. I, also, use an email client.

[–] anotherandrew@lemmy.mixdown.ca 3 points 10 months ago

I know I’m an outlier, but I prefer text mode IRC, then slack, and then all the other shit (telegram, signal, discord, teams, etc) fall way behind. “Everything is a walled-off app” is a horrible way to communicate. I get why these companies do it, and I also even understand the headache over maintaining useful open APIs, but honestly, they drop that ASAP because it doesn’t make them money.

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